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Article #2699Re: RAAARRGGHH!!!! not again!
From: Robert Hearn
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:01
Date: Thu, 28 Jan 1993 02:01
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In article <1993Jan26.155709.25082@cs.cornell.edu>, karr@cs.cornell.edu (David Karr) wrote: > > In article <C1GuHw.zuF@austin.ibm.com> bmoore@sunfish.austin.ibm.com (Bryan Moore) writes: > >[...] > >Back to the dice... Roll two dice 100 times. Get 100 pieces of paper and > >write the results of the first die on one side and write the results > >of the second die on the other side of the piece of paper. Put all the > >pieces of paper in a hat. Now pick a piece of paper out of the hat. > >You see a six on the piece of paper, what is the probability that the > >other side has a six? IT IS 1/11!!!!!!! > > No, it's 1/6. Have you tried it? Get someone who really understands > probability to explain it to you. Or you can simulate it easily on a > computer, but remember, a paper with two 6's can be selected in two > different ways but a paper with only one 6 can be selected in only one > way (if the first side you look at is the other side you have to > discard the event). > > -- David Karr (karr@cs.cornell.edu) Well, you're right, but when you ask the problem the CORRECT way, that is, don't mention meeting someone on the street, then the answer is 1/3, not 1/2. If there were a club for every family in the US that had two children at least one of which was a girl, and everyone qualified joined, then only 1/3 of the member families would have the other daughter also a girl. Or, in terms of the paper hat, you have to look at both sides. If EITHER side is a six, then the probability that the OTHER side is a six is 1/11. It's the unintuitiveness of the way you're given the information that obscures the answer. Bob Hearn Spartacus Software Opinions expressed here are those of my empolyer, since that's me.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!amdahl!rtech!sgiblab!spool.mu.edu!agate!ames!sun-barr!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!exodus.Eng.Sun.COM!sun!claris!NewsWatcher!user From: Bob_Hearn@qm.claris.com (Robert Hearn) Newsgroups: rec.puzzles Subject: Re: RAAARRGGHH!!!! not again! Message-ID: <Bob_Hearn-270193175807@192.35.50.165> Date: 28 Jan 93 02:01:25 GMT References: <C1GuHw.zuF@austin.ibm.com> <1993Jan26.155709.25082@cs.cornell.edu> Sender: news@claris.com Followup-To: rec.puzzles Organization: Spartacus Software Lines: 38 Nntp-Posting-Host: hearn