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Article #1492Joining Ropes (was Re: Hangmans noose)
From: Grant David Gardner
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:38
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:38
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Interesting discussion regarding the Hangmans noose, Rumours about its alledged illegality were rife here in Australia when I was just a scout. Anyway in one of the articles Re:Hangmans noose Dennis J Wilkinson wrote >The reef knot isn't designed to bear >weight (it's for closing packages, really) and under a heavy load will do one of >two things - slip completely, or break (it weakens line severly). Use a sheet ^^^^^^^^ >bend for joining lines (even if they're DIFFERENT sizes!) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well for all our rope joining purposes when the load on the rope is going to be US! (ie abseiling) the only knot we ever use to join rope of EQUAL thicknesses is a double fishermans. (The knot used to make a prussick loop) This knot has the advantage of keeping the rope in a straight line, reducing the sideways stresses on the rope. We only ever use kernmantle ropes but I see no reason why it would knot (Ha Ha) work with other types. (Although they may be hard to undo) I do agree however that a sheet bend is the most suitable knot for joining unequal thicknesses, or different types, of rope. _________________________________________________________________________________ Grant Gardner. Crew Leader. 1st Kissing Point Rover Crew, Sydney Australia. e-mail- ggardner@dmmsyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU _________________________________________________________________________________
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Newsgroups: rec.scouting Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!munnari.oz.au!metro!dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU!ggardner From: ggardner@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Grant David Gardner) Subject: Joining Ropes (was Re: Hangmans noose) Message-ID: <BzopoF.Js8@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU> Originator: ggardner@leather.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU Keywords: knots ropes Sender: news@syd.dms.CSIRO.AU Reply-To: ggardner@dmssyd.syd.dms.CSIRO.AU (Grant David Gardner) Organization: CSIRO Division of Mathematics and Statistics, Australia Date: Tue, 22 Dec 1992 23:38:38 GMT Lines: 34