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Article #1820Re: CONFUSED YOUNG MAN NEEDS HELP AND ANSWERS
From: doc
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 00:00
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 1995 00:00
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What a nice piece this is... It should be given to ALL young gay people. Thankyou. prophet@prophet.org (Mirador, Elven Mage) wrote: >Another sensible person in the world. Surely there must be others... > >When Jesus' desciples asked him, "Master, what shall we do?" He said, >"Love one another." So what's to figure out? > > >In article <464n0v$bm0@er7.rutgers.edu>, dstern@er7.rutgers.edu says... >> >>"Confused," >> >>I was really moved by your letter. I'm trying to sort out my thoughts about >>what you wrote, so bear with me while I improvise. >> >>First of all, I'd like to tell you (and I know that one stranger telling you >>isn't enough) to stop beating yourself up. You're not a monster, a pervert, >>an alien, too intelligent, too gay, too interested in youth, to be a part of >>the human race. The main thing that we, as gay people, are taught is that >>we are the ultimate aliens. Ask any crew of high-school boys (this survey >>was done once) what the ultimate insult is, the one that will always start >>a fight. It is, of course, "faggot". Being smart is another thing that >>cuts a kid off from the normal crowd. But as an adult, you recognize that >>there are many "crowds" out there, with many definitions of normal. As an >>adult, you have the power to control where you live and who you associate >>with. And right now, it sounds like the only person calling you horrible >>names is you. That is the impulse that you have to fight. Not your >>sexuality. >> >>You may be thinking that your self-hatred is the only thing keeping you >>from turning into the dangerous sex-fiend you are so afraid of becoming. >>I don't think it works that way. It is the people who accept their sexuality, >>for whom it is a comfortable and integrated part of their lives, who can >>exercise a morality that comes from the heart, not from some kind of self- >>imposed bludgeon. Is being attracted to a minor evil? No - let's face it: >>many younger people are sexual and attractive. There's no magical >>transformation that happens at midnight on someone's eighteenth birthday to >>give them sexual appeal. Are you evil for appreciating the beauty and >>vitality of youth? I don't think so. >> >>Actions, of course, are something else. Actually having a sexual >>relationship with a boy would be risky for you and probably bad for him. >>But I think you know that, and haven't acted on that particular aspect of >>your sexuality. Have you ever thought that that's a matter for praise, >>not blame? I think that if you were just a bit kinder to yourself, and that >>includes your sexual feelings, you would be more, not less, assured that you >>will do no harm to another person. >> >>Besides, I have a hunch that what you really want is not to sleep with some >>kid in real life, but to go back in time yourself, and do your own youth over >>again. Make it come out right this time. If you knew then what you know >>now, maybe you could have been proud of who you are; maybe you could have >>found love, and had a boyfriend, and held hands and gone to the prom and >>passed notes in class and all of those things that kids do. >> >>I don't think that there is a gay man who doesn't feel a bit of rage >>somewhere that we never got to have that carefree pre-sexuality of the >>young. But the past is what it is; it can never be undone and it cannot >>be relived. The unhappy, isolated boy you were will always be a part of >>you. But (here's the but) that's not all there is to you. Don't buy >>the psychological line that says that you are simply an extension of your >>childhood. I think you're as much a product of what you thought about five >>minutes ago as you are of your childhood. You cannot undo the love and >>acceptance you never had when you were younger, but you can have those things >>now. >> >>Meet a gay person. Not a lover, yet; I wouldn't recommend having sex until >>you are much more comfortable with the idea that sexuality can be a >>joyful addition to your life, not a burden. But a friend; above all, find >>out that you are not alone by hearing echoes of what you've been through. >>Train yourself to trust other people; slowly, bit by bit, take a risk by >>telling someone something small that you wouldn't have told them before. >>Try, just once, having a sexual thought, WHATEVER it is, and simply >>enjoying it. It will not drive you out of control and it will not hurt >>anybody. Cut words like "burdened" "cursed" "never" "only one in the >>world" out of your vocabulary. They are self-fulfilling prophecies, not >>descriptions. At least one reader on the internet thinks you're probably >>OK. >> >> >>I'm sorry to have taken this ex cathedra tone; I was just trying to tell you >>some of the kinds of things I figured out the hard way. Like those >>god-awful boring 12-step meetings say, "take what you like and leave the >>rest." Write back sometime and let me know how you're doing. >> >>Cheers, >> >>David. >
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