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Article #103Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: John Donovan
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:47
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 18:47
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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message news:bp56l49o0rq4s2nm3tnvijltsuhdktrqea@4ax.com... > On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:44:19 -0500, "John Donovan" > <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > >> >>"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message >>news:87tz8wiw44.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net... >>> LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>> >>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:17:32 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill >>>> Z.) wrote: >>>> >>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>>>> >>>>>No, I think you lie - you made up that 70 percent thing and the >>>>>CDC data simply is not consistent with it - the actual numbers >>>>>are lower. >>>> >>>> 2005 Data directly from a CDC study read it and weep:: >>> >>> Why should I "weep" when the CDC data backs up what I said? >>> >>>> * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992 MSM >>>> (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a diagnosis >>>> of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents who >>>> received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a >>>> diagnosis of AIDS [1]. >>> >>> Yep, just what I pointed out - you gave a number that was too high. >>> >>>> So, I was off by three percentage points that well with in the margin >>>> for error. >>> >>> No it isn't - you get that sort of error when you have around 1000 >>> cases as it follows a Poisson distribution, and the standard deviation >>> (the statistical error) is the square root of that number. For a mean >>> of 500,000 cases, the statistical error (which measures the random >>> change from year to year) is 0.14 percent. >>> >>>> While I can't find the cite yet I know that CDC has upped >>>> that figure to 70% since 2005 >>> >>> You can't find a citation but "know" anyway? And you expect us to >>> believe you? >>> >>>>>>>Why not just admit what the actual numbers are? That isn't asking >>>>>>>a lot from you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Why not accept the data from the CDC rather than continue to blow >>>>>> smoke up your own ass. >>>>> >>>>>Why do you lie so much? >>>> >>>> It very clear who is lying and it's not me. I back up what I say, >>>> you, on the other hand, whine a lot. >>> >>> It is very clear you are lying. One lie you tell repeatedly is to >>> attribute all male-to-male sexual contact cases to homosexuals while >>> ignoring bisexuals. >> >>Bill, he doesn't even read the stuff he cuts/pastes. >> >>He finds something he things supports his point of view...and posts it >>here. >> >>If he can't be bothered thinking on his own, then why bother with all his >>cut/paste crap... > > All CDC data that mentions MSM include bisexuals in the numbers. Wake > up, boys. Please learn to uise your mind. Maybe youa re just some right wing nutcase who has given up thinking by following around the likes of Jimmy Swaggart in place of a thought process. (BTW....Jimmy Swaggart is a good example of a hetero, isn't he? The world would be so much better if we were all like him, huh?) Or maybe you never got out of the trailer park for an education, but cut/paste is a lazy man's way to argue. Your teacher would give you an F. Plus some of the cut/paste crap you post is even contradictory to what you are trying to say.
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