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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

#104
From: John Donovan
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:18
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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message 
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> On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:47:46 -0500, "John Donovan"
> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message
>>news:bp56l49o0rq4s2nm3tnvijltsuhdktrqea@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:44:19 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:87tz8wiw44.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
>>>>> LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:17:32 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
>>>>>> Z.) wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>No, I think you lie - you made up that 70 percent thing and the
>>>>>>>CDC data simply is not consistent with it - the actual numbers
>>>>>>>are lower.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    2005 Data directly from a CDC study read it and weep::
>>>>>
>>>>> Why should I "weep" when the CDC data backs up what I said?
>>>>>
>>>>>>     * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992 MSM
>>>>>> (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a 
>>>>>> diagnosis
>>>>>> of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents who
>>>>>> received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a
>>>>>> diagnosis of AIDS [1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep, just what I pointed out - you gave a number that was too high.
>>>>>
>>>>>> So, I was off by three percentage points that well with in the margin
>>>>>> for error.
>>>>>
>>>>> No it isn't - you get that sort of error when you have around 1000
>>>>> cases as it follows a Poisson distribution, and the standard deviation
>>>>> (the statistical error) is the square root of that number. For a mean
>>>>> of 500,000 cases, the statistical error (which measures the random
>>>>> change from year to year) is 0.14 percent.
>>>>>
>>>>>> While I can't find the cite yet I know that CDC has upped
>>>>>> that figure to 70% since 2005
>>>>>
>>>>> You can't find a citation but "know" anyway?  And you expect us to
>>>>> believe you?
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Why not just admit what the actual numbers are?  That isn't asking
>>>>>>>>>a lot from you.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Why not accept the data from the CDC rather than continue to blow
>>>>>>>> smoke up your own ass.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Why do you lie so much?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It very clear who is lying  and it's not me. I back up what I say,
>>>>>> you, on the other hand, whine a lot.
>>>>>
>>>>> It is very clear you are lying.  One lie you tell repeatedly is to
>>>>> attribute all male-to-male sexual contact cases to homosexuals while
>>>>> ignoring bisexuals.
>>>>
>>>>Bill, he doesn't even read the stuff he cuts/pastes.
>>>>
>>>>He finds something he things supports his point of view...and posts it
>>>>here.
>>>>
>>>>If he can't be bothered thinking on his own, then why bother with all 
>>>>his
>>>>cut/paste crap...
>>>
>>> All CDC data that mentions MSM include bisexuals in the numbers. Wake
>>> up, boys.
>>
>>Please learn to uise your mind.
>>
>>Maybe youa re just some right wing nutcase who has given up thinking by
>>following around the likes of Jimmy Swaggart in place of a thought 
>>process.
>>(BTW....Jimmy Swaggart is a good example of a hetero, isn't he?  The world
>>would be so much better if we were all like him, huh?)
>>
>>Or maybe you never got out of the trailer park for an education, but
>>cut/paste is a lazy man's way to argue.
>>
>>Your teacher would give you an F.
>>
>>Plus some of the cut/paste crap you post is even contradictory to what you
>>are trying to say.
>
> Give me a shout when you escape from Babel......

Give me a shoutout when you have an open mind and stop cutting and pasting 
like a kindergarten child.

If you would allow your mind to think, instead of parroting what Geryy 
Falwell and others say.
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From: "John Donovan" <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com>
Newsgroups: sac.general,ba.general,ba.politics,la.general,scruz.general
Subject: Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 14:18:18 -0500
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