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Article #104Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: John Donovan
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:18
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 2008 19:18
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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message news:f8djl45hfg248ooaiu3607ntpjvkngmpbr@4ax.com... > On Fri, 26 Dec 2008 13:47:46 -0500, "John Donovan" > <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > >> >>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message >>news:bp56l49o0rq4s2nm3tnvijltsuhdktrqea@4ax.com... >>> On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 12:44:19 -0500, "John Donovan" >>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message >>>>news:87tz8wiw44.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net... >>>>> LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:17:32 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill >>>>>> Z.) wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>No, I think you lie - you made up that 70 percent thing and the >>>>>>>CDC data simply is not consistent with it - the actual numbers >>>>>>>are lower. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2005 Data directly from a CDC study read it and weep:: >>>>> >>>>> Why should I "weep" when the CDC data backs up what I said? >>>>> >>>>>> * Since the beginning of the epidemic, an estimated 517,992 MSM >>>>>> (452,111 MSM and 65,881 MSM who inject drugs) had received a >>>>>> diagnosis >>>>>> of AIDS, accounting for 68% of male adults and adolescents who >>>>>> received a diagnosis of AIDS and 54% of all people who received a >>>>>> diagnosis of AIDS [1]. >>>>> >>>>> Yep, just what I pointed out - you gave a number that was too high. >>>>> >>>>>> So, I was off by three percentage points that well with in the margin >>>>>> for error. >>>>> >>>>> No it isn't - you get that sort of error when you have around 1000 >>>>> cases as it follows a Poisson distribution, and the standard deviation >>>>> (the statistical error) is the square root of that number. For a mean >>>>> of 500,000 cases, the statistical error (which measures the random >>>>> change from year to year) is 0.14 percent. >>>>> >>>>>> While I can't find the cite yet I know that CDC has upped >>>>>> that figure to 70% since 2005 >>>>> >>>>> You can't find a citation but "know" anyway? And you expect us to >>>>> believe you? >>>>> >>>>>>>>>Why not just admit what the actual numbers are? That isn't asking >>>>>>>>>a lot from you. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Why not accept the data from the CDC rather than continue to blow >>>>>>>> smoke up your own ass. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Why do you lie so much? >>>>>> >>>>>> It very clear who is lying and it's not me. I back up what I say, >>>>>> you, on the other hand, whine a lot. >>>>> >>>>> It is very clear you are lying. One lie you tell repeatedly is to >>>>> attribute all male-to-male sexual contact cases to homosexuals while >>>>> ignoring bisexuals. >>>> >>>>Bill, he doesn't even read the stuff he cuts/pastes. >>>> >>>>He finds something he things supports his point of view...and posts it >>>>here. >>>> >>>>If he can't be bothered thinking on his own, then why bother with all >>>>his >>>>cut/paste crap... >>> >>> All CDC data that mentions MSM include bisexuals in the numbers. Wake >>> up, boys. >> >>Please learn to uise your mind. >> >>Maybe youa re just some right wing nutcase who has given up thinking by >>following around the likes of Jimmy Swaggart in place of a thought >>process. >>(BTW....Jimmy Swaggart is a good example of a hetero, isn't he? The world >>would be so much better if we were all like him, huh?) >> >>Or maybe you never got out of the trailer park for an education, but >>cut/paste is a lazy man's way to argue. >> >>Your teacher would give you an F. >> >>Plus some of the cut/paste crap you post is even contradictory to what you >>are trying to say. > > Give me a shout when you escape from Babel...... Give me a shoutout when you have an open mind and stop cutting and pasting like a kindergarten child. If you would allow your mind to think, instead of parroting what Geryy Falwell and others say.
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