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Article #141Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: John Donovan
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:38
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 17:38
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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message news:0astk49dnrou4acpktsns79e09t755cv5e@4ax.com... > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 18:26:06 -0500, "John Donovan" > <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote: > >> >>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message >>news:c8rrk41u6dojif8f1m94anjm7hqm152kap@4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 01:33:42 -0500, "John Donovan" >>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message >>>>news:8esok4l5mifilk4dc2mouttkn7uvp7ogjn@4ax.com... >>>>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 14:54:51 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill >>>>> Z.) wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 10:51:11 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill >>>>>>> Z.) wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 18 Dec 2008 19:41:52 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net >>>>>>>>> (Bill >>>>>>>>> Z.) wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Ah! But a majority (70%) of the men who have AIDS ARE >>>>>>>>>>> homosexuals >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>100% of humans who have prostate cancer are men. Your point is >>>>>>>>>>meaningless (and a tad disinjenious as you are apparently ignoring >>>>>>>>>>women who have it). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> It's amazing how you fling the fallacies. You are an expert in >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> application of the Homosexual Dogma. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>What the hell are you babbling about now and what "fallacies" are >>>>>>>>lying about? Maybe you don't like people pointing out the sort >>>>>>>>of tricks outlines in books such as "How to lie with statistics." >>>>>>>>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/How_to_Lie_with_Statistics jas a >>>>>>>>short description for you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Another fallacy flung to avoid recognizing the facts about >>>>>>> homosexual >>>>>>> makes and HIV/AIDS/ >>>>>> >>>>>>Look moron, it is not a "fallacy" to point out that you were misusing >>>>>>statistics. All you had to do to avoid criticism is to provide >>>>>>accurate and appropriate numbers. For some reason, you can't do that >>>>>>and instead continually exaggerate, which is not necessary. If you >>>>>>had been honest, you'd have said that 48% of the cummulative AIDS >>>>>>cases since the start of the epidemic are known to have resulted from >>>>>>male-to-male sexual contact. It's 48% instead of 70% due to the 48% >>>>>>number including women, and more straight women than straight men are >>>>>>infected. You can also admit that male-to-male sexual contact >>>>>>includes >>>>>>not only homosexuals - bisexuals, straight guys who "experiment", and >>>>>>rape victims (e.g., in prison) are all in that category. >>>>>> >>>>>>Why do you have to lie so much? If you simply told the truth, you'd >>>>>>still have rates that would make most readers nervous. All your >>>>>>exagerations do is to reduce your credibility to zero, as do your >>>>>>paranoid delusions about "Dogma". >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As usual you refuse to acknowledge the truth >>>> >>>>No, we picked apart your argumnent peice by peice. >>>> >>>>> about male homosexuals >>>>> and their knowing and willful >>>> >>>>Knowing and willful? More fairy tales? Or do you have some statistic >>>>from >>>>Rev. Phelps to back up your point? >>>> >>>>> spread of HIV/AIDS in the us. >>>> >>>>And, even if this was tru (it's not), why would you care? >>>> >>>>If it's only gays who are spreading it (it's not) why should you worry? >>> >>> >>> Your ignorance about what is going on around you is astounding. >> >>Not my ignoprance...but yours. You say you are not doing anything that >>could allow you to be infected....or are you? >> >>Are you living bisexually? Is your lady messing around? >> >>If you heteros would be able to maintain monogomy, then you'd have nothing >>to worry about. >> >>>>> Homosexual >>>>> males account for 70% of all AIDS case among males in the US and 50% >>>>> of all cases male and female. >>> >>> >>>>And black men account for most of the cases of diabetes....so it must be >>>>a >>>>"black man" disease. >>> >>> Fallacy. >> >>Nope...look it up for yourself. Diabetes affects black men at a >>disporportional rate....so it must be a black disease. >> >> >>>>The majority of gay men never contract aids. (A statistic you can't >>>>seem >>>>to >>>>grasp.) >>> >>> >>> Seventy percent of the men with AIDS in the US are homosexuals. >> >>The majority of gay men never contract aids. > > Your ignorance is showing (AGAIN!) > > > Unknown HIV Serostatus > Approximately 25% of people in the United States who are infected with > HIV do not know they are infected [14]. Do you even read anything you post....or simply cut/paste crapola? Even if this cut/paste job is true.....it doesn't change the fact that the majority of gay men never contract aids. Your IGNORANCE is blatant.
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