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"Amos Nandy" <amos_nandy@cebu.net> wrote in message 
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> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:19:05 -0500, "John Donovan"
> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Amos Nandy" <amos_nandy@cebu.net> wrote in message
>>news:38a3k4l3j9tfpffb3nn0auog2g80d8vd3k@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:52:47 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:03babf30-8e41-451b-86c0-7a684111527b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >  Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is
>>>>>> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which is
>>>>>> >> > predominant among homosexual men.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Would you care to revise that statement?  It is the "entirely" 
>>>>>> >> part
>>>>>> >> that is wrong.  The probability of infection per sex act is 
>>>>>> >> highest
>>>>>> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other
>>>>>> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is
>>>>>> >> completely safe when it isn't.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex
>>>>>> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect
>>>>>> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex)
>>>>>> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20%
>>>>>> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for
>>>>>> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro-
>>>>>> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads
>>>>>> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse?
>>>>>> > How could it not be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
>>>>>> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
>>>>>> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
>>>>>> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity
>>>>>> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
>>>>>> have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable
>>>>>> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
>>>>>> when you state such experience up front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized
>>>>>> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
>>>>>> imagined.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
>>>>> through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
>>>>> subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this...
>>>>
>>>>The Gay Community is the ONLY people who dealt with the *facts* about
>>>>HIV/AIDS.
>>>
>>> Bull Shit!
>>
>>You're refuting me without any facts.  The gay community themselves were
>>responsible for education, testing and incredibly reducing the infection
>>rate.
>>
>>>>The Gay Community (with little if any help from anyone else) helped stem
>>>>the
>>>>tide of Aids.
>>>
>>> Bull Shit! The promiscuous behavior of homosexual males...
>>
>>Again, do you have any fats to really refute the statement...or more
>>cut/paste crap?
>>
>>The rate of infection declined dramatically.  Who was responsible for
>>education, testing and reducing this rate?
>
> There has been NO DECLINE in the rate of HIV/AIDS cases among male
> homosexuals in the US.

THis is false, however, you can live in stupidity if you like.  It's a free 
country.
>>Facts is facts.
>>
>>Although you promiscuous heteros have been responsible for spreading
>>Ghonnorhea,  Chlamydia and the calp since the days of columbus.
>
> Another of your head up your ass facts.

Nope, you promiscuous. heteros spread chlamydia and ghonnorhea everywhere.

Look at the rate of STDs during WW1 & WW2.

Was that m2m sex in the baracks that we diudn't know was going on?

>>> Bull Shit. The states and the Federal government have spent BILLIONS
>>> on AIDS education
>>
>>Again, back to facts.  Under Ronadl Reagan when this all began, the fed
>>government did nothing.
>>
>>Most of the research that has helped with the 'cocktail' medication came
>>from European countries.
>
> Funded by the US tax dollars

We are funding drug trials in France?

Another falsehood.

Wow...  Stop the presses!

>
>>> (to no avail among homosexual males who, for the
>>> most part are governed by sexual promiscuity)...
>
>>Emotions.  No facts.
>
> Try "Homosexuals know how AIDS is transmitted yet they make little
> effort to abate it.

Wrong....most of the efforts to encourage testing and safe-sex were 
instituted by the gay community.

>>> and free treatment
>>> (with very expensive drugs)  for the AIDS infected homosexual males
>>
>>There is free treatment available?!?!?!?    You can get the drugs for 
>>free?
>>
>>Wow!  Why aren't we telling people about that?
>
> Some of you are always a day late and a dollar short -

Please tell me where we are giving out the drugs for free so we can 
publicisze it!


>>> who can't keep their dick out of their BUTT BUDDY'S ass..
>>
>>Pardon me, but I think the heteros have who zoned districts in each town
>>dedicated to the fact that they can't control themselve.
>
>>These districts are filled with hetero married men, who can't seem to be
>>satisfied with the woman they asre married to.
>
> Fallacy - the last resort of a whipped homosexual.

Denial...the last resort of a loser in a debate.

Denial....not just a river in Egypt.

Next!


BTW.....How many out of wedlock births are you promiscuous heteros taking 
responsibility for?

Out of wedlock birhts are at an all time hight because of you dirty heteros 
having sex with strangers you have no intention on stating with.

How mucvh puiblic money do we spend on welfare for your BASTARD CHILDREN/

(I got the idea of using caps for emphasis from you.  ;-)