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"Amos Nandy" <amos_nandy@cebu.net> wrote in message 
news:38a3k4l3j9tfpffb3nn0auog2g80d8vd3k@4ax.com...
> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:52:47 -0500, "John Donovan"
> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
>>news:03babf30-8e41-451b-86c0-7a684111527b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>
>>>
>>> Bill Z. wrote:
>>>> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>> > Bill Z. wrote:
>>>> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> >  Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is
>>>> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which is
>>>> >> > predominant among homosexual men.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> Would you care to revise that statement?  It is the "entirely" part
>>>> >> that is wrong.  The probability of infection per sex act is highest
>>>> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other
>>>> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals.
>>>> >>
>>>> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is
>>>> >> completely safe when it isn't.
>>>> >
>>>> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex
>>>> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect
>>>> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex)
>>>> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20%
>>>> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for
>>>> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro-
>>>> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads
>>>> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse?
>>>> > How could it not be?
>>>>
>>>> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
>>>> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
>>>> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
>>>> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity
>>>> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>>>>
>>>> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
>>>> have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable
>>>> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
>>>> when you state such experience up front.
>>>>
>>>> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized
>>>> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
>>>> imagined.
>>>
>>> There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
>>> through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
>>> subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this...
>>
>>The Gay Community is the ONLY people who dealt with the *facts* about
>>HIV/AIDS.
>
> Bull Shit!

You're refuting me without any facts.  The gay community themselves were 
responsible for education, testing and incredibly reducing the infection 
rate.

>>The Gay Community (with little if any help from anyone else) helped stem 
>>the
>>tide of Aids.
>
> Bull Shit! The promiscuous behavior of homosexual males...

Again, do you have any fats to really refute the statement...or more 
cut/paste crap?

The rate of infection declined dramatically.  Who was responsible for 
education, testing and reducing this rate?

The gay community itself.

>>So, don't lecture anyone on the denial.
>
> Don't try to bull shit us.

Facts is facts.

Although you promiscuous heteros have been responsible for spreading 
Ghonnorhea,  Chlamydia and the calp since the days of columbus.

When are you guys gonna shape up?

>>Local, State and the Federal government have been in a state of denial 
>>since
>>1985.
>
>
> Bull Shit. The states and the Federal government have spent BILLIONS
> on AIDS education

Again, back to facts.  Under Ronadl Reagan when this all began, the fed 
government did nothing.

Most of the research that has helped with the 'cocktail' medication came 
from European countries.

> (to no avail among homosexual males who, for the
> most part are governed by sexual promiscuity)...

Emotions.  No facts.

> and free treatment
> (with very expensive drugs)  for the AIDS infected homosexual males

There is free treatment available?!?!?!?    You can get the drugs for free?

Wow!  Why aren't we telling people about that?


> who can't keep their dick out of their BUTT BUDDY'S ass..

Pardon me, but I think the heteros have who zoned districts in each town 
dedicated to the fact that they can't control themselve.

These districts are filled with hetero married men, who can't seem to be 
satisfied with the woman they asre married to.