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"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message 
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> On Sat, 13 Dec 2008 14:09:54 -0500, "John Donovan"
> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"LeRoy Blue" <leroyblue@billon.net> wrote in message
>>news:3971k4hp0c2pf32fr9kh9od23a0roote19@4ax.com...
>>> On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 02:52:47 -0500, "John Donovan"
>>> <5l40sdm02@sneakemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>"kujebak" <kujebak@eudoramail.com> wrote in message
>>>>news:03babf30-8e41-451b-86c0-7a684111527b@g17g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Bill Z. wrote:
>>>>>> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> >  Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is
>>>>>> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which is
>>>>>> >> > predominant among homosexual men.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> Would you care to revise that statement?  It is the "entirely" 
>>>>>> >> part
>>>>>> >> that is wrong.  The probability of infection per sex act is 
>>>>>> >> highest
>>>>>> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other
>>>>>> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals.
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is
>>>>>> >> completely safe when it isn't.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex
>>>>>> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect
>>>>>> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex)
>>>>>> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20%
>>>>>> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for
>>>>>> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro-
>>>>>> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads
>>>>>> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse?
>>>>>> > How could it not be?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
>>>>>> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
>>>>>> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
>>>>>> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity
>>>>>> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
>>>>>> have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable
>>>>>> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
>>>>>> when you state such experience up front.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized
>>>>>> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
>>>>>> imagined.
>>>>>
>>>>> There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
>>>>> through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
>>>>> subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this...
>>>>
>>>>The Gay Community is the ONLY people who dealt with the *facts* about
>>>>HIV/AIDS.
>>>>
>>>>The Gay Community (with little if any help from anyone else) helped stem
>>>>the
>>>>tide of Aids.
>>>>
>>>>So, don't lecture anyone on the denial.
>>>>
>>>>Local, State and the Federal government have been in a state of denial
>>>>since
>>>>1985.
>>>
>>>
>>> Few people will share your view because the average American can't
>>> get their head that far up their ass.
>>
>>Can't discuss facts .....it appears to be an emotional thing for you.
>>
>>> Homosexual males were, have been
>>> and are the No.1 vector of HIV/AIDS in the US. Homosexual males..
>>
>>And the reduction in infections for 20 years was due to the gay
>>community...with little help from anyone else.
>
> There has been NO REDUCTION in the rate of HIV/AIDS case reported each
> year among homosexual males. The only reduction has been among hets in
> general and het IV drug users.

This is False.

> There has been no reduction in the rate of new cases reported

This is false.

> Get you head out of your ass and stop aiding and abetting the spread
> of HIV/AIDS by homosexuals

More emotional crap.

No one is abetting the spread of HIV/AIDS.

Everyone is advocating safe sex and testing.

Please check your hate at the door and deal with facts.