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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: Bill Z.
Date: Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:20
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"D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> writes:

> "Bill Z." <nobody@nospam.pacbell.net> wrote in message
> news:871vy0mekt.fsf@nospam.pacbell.net...
>> "D. Stussy" <spam@bde-arc.ampr.org> writes:
>> > "Nomen Nescio" <nobody@dizum.com> wrote in message
>> > news:c0c5fef993b772586ad491e239a5debe@dizum.com...
>> >> Please Vote No on Proposition Eight.
>> >>
>> >> Don't allow discrimination against
>> >> anyone!
>> >
>> > Vote Yes on Prop 8.  They already have "equal rights" - it's called the
>> > "registered domestic partnership."  We don't need more laws.
>>
>> If your opinion really is "We don't need more laws," then you should
>> vote *against* Proposition 8, which creates a new law. :-)
>
> Actually, it doesn't. All it does is clarify a definition.

Wrong - it eliminates a right that people now have (whether you agree
with that right or not), and the wording of the proposition is not
a definition.

You can't wiggle out of it - if you say "we don't need more laws",
then you should vote against Proposition 8 because it in fact creates
a new law.  If you don't like the conclusion, maybe you should do the
sensible thing and change your premise. :-)

>> Humor about poor reasoning aside, the California Supreme Court
>> addressed the issue of whether a domestic partnership conveys
>> the same rights as marriage and concluded that it does not.
>> Read the decision for details.
>
> Courts can be wrong.

The California Supreme Court is far less likely to be wrong than
random usenet posters.
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