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kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:

> On Nov 1, 5:42 pm, nob...@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill Z.) wrote:
>> kujebak <kuje...@eudoramail.com> writes:
>> > I hope you realize that Proposition 8 is as much a public
>> > backlash against the activist judiciary, as it is about same-
>> > sex marriage. I personally don't care whether gay couples
>> > get to keep their marriage certificates or not, but I'm vo-
>> > ting for the proposition just to straighten out the courts ;-)
>>
>> Do you realize that what you think is an "activist judiciary"
>> on the California Supreme Court contains only one justice who
>> was appointed by a Democrat that all the others were appointed
>> by conservative Republican governors?
>>
>> Do you also realize that Proposition 8 was submitted to the state
>> Sept--Oct 2007, the point where they started to gather signatures?
>> Proposition Eight is not on the ballot because of the decision to
>> allow same-sex marriages - that decision had yet to be made when
>> Proposition Eight was written.
>
> And I hope you realize that none of this really invalidates
> my point. If it hadn't been for the court overruling Proposi-
> tion 22, I probably wouldn't care about the gay marriage
> issue any more than I care about social services and public
> education for illegal immigrants. To me the only issue that
> matters in either case are the activist courts, and their con-
> tepmt for the law.

ROTFLMAO! The California Supreme Court is simply not an "activist
court".  In fact, it is rather conservative.  Its ruling regarding
Proposition 22 was solidly based on what is in the California State
Constitution, which the court's members did not write.

Proposition 22 was overruled for a number of reasons. Only a fool
would vote for Proposition 8, which takes the wording of Proposition
22 tries to transfer it to the state constitution in a way that will
tie up the courts for years in litigation (for example, what happens
to existing marriages and how do you compensate people if you take
their marriages away, the value of which may be considerably higher
than the processing fees for getting a license).