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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: kujebak
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:45
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Bill Z. wrote:
> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>
> > Bill Z. wrote:
> >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
> >>
> >> >  Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is
> >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which is
> >> > predominant among homosexual men.
> >>
> >> Would you care to revise that statement?  It is the "entirely" part
> >> that is wrong.  The probability of infection per sex act is highest
> >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other
> >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals.
> >>
> >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is
> >> completely safe when it isn't.
> >
> > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex
> > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect
> > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex)
> > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20%
> > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for
> > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro-
> > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads
> > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse?
> > How could it not be?
>
> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity
> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>
> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
> have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable
> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
> when you state such experience up front.
>
> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized
> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
> imagined.

There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this and
other topics - even today, it is not easy to look up actual
HIV/AIDS statistics, which are obscured in public health
papers and scientific publications under tons of other irrele-
vant data, and almost never presented in the mainstream
media, but they are there for anyone to see, who actually
cares to look - and your quick retreat behind ideological
labels clearly indicates where *you* are coming from ;-)
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From: kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com>
Newsgroups: sac.general,ba.general,ba.politics,la.general,scruz.general
Subject: Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
Date: Wed, 3 Dec 2008 13:45:58 -0800 (PST)
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