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Article #246Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: kujebak
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:45
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 21:45
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Bill Z. wrote: > kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes: > > > Bill Z. wrote: > >> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes: > >> > >> > Normal transmission of the HIV virus between individuals is > >> > entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual contact which is > >> > predominant among homosexual men. > >> > >> Would you care to revise that statement? It is the "entirely" part > >> that is wrong. The probability of infection per sex act is highest > >> for one particular sexual practice, but it is not zero for other > >> ones, including ones common among heterosexuals. > >> > >> It's bad form to send out messages that suggest something is > >> completely safe when it isn't. > > > > That was not my point. My point was that normal sex > > among homosexual men is far more risky, with respect > > to HIV transmission, than normal sex (including oral sex) > > among heterosexuals, to the tune of something like 20% > > for the former compared to one tenth of one percent for > > the latter. What is *your* point? That HIV is not just a pro- > > blem of homosexual lifestyle? A disease that spreads > > in the human population predominantly by anal intercourse? > > How could it not be? > > My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably > meant, was wrong. If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be) > you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word > "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity > was zero and that simply isn't the case. > > You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should > have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable > members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly > when you state such experience up front. > > If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized > what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or > imagined. There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this and other topics - even today, it is not easy to look up actual HIV/AIDS statistics, which are obscured in public health papers and scientific publications under tons of other irrele- vant data, and almost never presented in the mainstream media, but they are there for anyone to see, who actually cares to look - and your quick retreat behind ideological labels clearly indicates where *you* are coming from ;-)
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