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Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight

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From: Bill Z.
Date: Wed, 03 Dec 2008 23:30
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kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:

> Bill Z. wrote:
>> kujebak <kujebak@eudoramail.com> writes:
>> > How could it not be?
>>
>> My point was that what you wrote, regardless of what you probably
>> meant, was wrong.  If you weren't a jerk (as you turned out to be)
>> you would have merely posted a correction: your use of the word
>> "entirely" meant that the risk for any other type of sexual activity
>> was zero and that simply isn't the case.
>>
>> You claimed to have some health care experience. If so, you should
>> have realized that posting misleading information that unknowledgable
>> members of the public might see is not a good idea, particularly
>> when you state such experience up front.
>>
>> If you weren't so bigoted (you obviously are) you would have realized
>> what I was saying - it had nothing to do with "lifestyles" real or
>> imagined.
>
> There is nothing "misleading" in what I said. I merely cut
> through decades of willful misinformation piled upon this
> subject. Your refusal to deal with facts underlying this and
> other topics ...

What a moron!  The facts are that the transmission rate for HIV per
sex act is nonzero for oral sex and for heterosexual intercourse (for
either partner).  What was misleading about what you said was your
statement that "Normal transmission of the HIV virus between
individuals is entirely dependent on a specific type of sexual
contact," and in English that use of "entirely" and "specific type"
implies a risk of zero for anything else.

Those are the facts - the rates have been measured - and it is *you*
who are refusing to deal with that.

It's real simple.  Look up the data in some tables provided by
health-care professionals and note that certain numbers are not
zero.  That's all there is to it.  If you want some sort of
discussion about various individuals' sex lives, try somewhere else,
like a dating web site or something.  I have no interest in that
sort of a discussion.

I'm not sure what your hangup is, but your inability to understand
a very simple comment really makes me doubt your intelligence.
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Subject: Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
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