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LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:

> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:05:06 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
> Z.) wrote:
>
>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Dec 2008 23:19:03 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
>>> Z.) wrote:
>>>
>>>>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:55:49 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill
>>>>> Z.) wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>What a liar! All I was "advocating" is that people present data
>>>>>>honestly and accurately. You failed miserably.
>>>>>
>>>>> My doG! Another fallacy argument.Will you ever stop...
>>>>
>>>>Sigh. I guess you are just another pathological liar plaguing usenet.
>>>>>
>>>>> Everything that I have posted regarding cases of HIV/AIDS in the US
>>>>> came from the CDC or from a report by a reputable source based on data
>>>>> from the CDC. 
>>>>
>>>>It may have come from the CDC in the sense that you got the figures
>>>>you "embellished" from it, but basically you lied.
>>
>>>  Read it again, cowboy:
>>>
>>> AIDS in 2005
>>
>>I read it before and you still embellished it.
>
> Read it again --  the cite changes the words remain the same that
> being YOU LOSE:
 	
No, you are simply lying, and your statment above is simply nonsense
(whatever it means).

>
> In the United States, HIV-related illness and death historically have
> had a tremendous impact on men who have sex with men (MSM). MSM
> accounted for 70% of all estimated HIV infections <snip>

Try again - we were talking about the cumulative number of cases and
that is a different number.  You quoted a particular URL and the data
in that URL gave a figure of 68 percent.  You were criticized simply
because the data did not match what you claimed.

The value per year can go up and down for a variety of reasons besides
statistical fluctuations. In the time frame you are now using (2004
and in a later post, 2005) a new HIV test that provides very quick
results was being introduced as part of a demonstration project,
<http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/mm5647a2.htm?s_cid=mm5647a2_e>.
In particular, the CDC introduced the tests "venues where persons at
high risk congregated, resided, or sought medical care."  They
introduce a test that catches infections earlier than those infections
would otherwise be caught, and the rate of diagnoses goes up
temporarily as a result.