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Article #96Re: Vote NO on Prop Eight
From: Bill Z.
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:14
Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 03:14
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LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: > On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:39:16 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill > Z.) wrote: > >>LeRoy Blue <leroyblue@billon.net> writes: >> >>> On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 08:33:49 -0800, nobody@nospam.pacbell.net (Bill >>> Z.) wrote: >>> >>>>Leroy Blue wrote >>> >>>>> Did you hear about the two homosexuals who repeatedly raped and then >>>>> murdered a 13 year old boy named Jesse Dirkhising? >>>> >>>>What are you babbling about this time? More of your fantasies? >>> >>> 13 year old Arkansas boy abducted and raped to death by 2 homosexuals >> >>According to <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesse_Dirkhising>, the kid >>stayed with these two men on weekends for a couple of months, the >>kid's parents allowed it, and the parents thought he was helping out >>at a salon. One these men said the sexual activity had been going on >>for two months and that the kid was a willing participant. So, the >>kid was not abducted - you lied about that. One of the two called >>911, which isn't typically consistent with a forcible rape either. >>There were no reports that the kid told the parents that he didn't >>want to spend weekends with these two guys, which one might expect if >>he didn't want that sort of sexual activity, but not with 100% >>certainty since kids are sometimes too scared or embarassed to say >>anything. >> >>It possibly was a statutory rape (i.e., if the kid was in fact a >>willing participant), but that's also a serious crime. Also, some >>drugs were involved and there was some "positional asphyxia", which >>seems to have been a contributing factor. The kid was not "raped to >>death" as the contributing factors in his death seem to be independent >>of whatever sexual activity went on. >> >>There are plenty of reasons to lock these two guys up for a very long >>time, but your spin on it is simply not consistent with the facts as >>far as they are known. > > > You are one sick SOB. Liar - I simply described the legal realities and facts as outlined in a Wikipedia article. If that kid stayed with these guys over a couple of months on weekends with the permission of the kid's parents, that kid was not abducted. It's not like someone hopped out of a car and dragged him off (which was the impression the lies in your original post suggested). The facts are that the specific sex acts involved were apparently not the cause of death - other factors were responsible. It's not like they tore the kid's colon or rectum. So, you lied about that - the kid was not raped to death - he was killed (apparently) from some combination of drugs and not getting enough air due to the position in which he was tied up. Regardless, the two guys reponsible will be in jail a very long time: an adult having sex with a 13 year is a serious crime, as is supplying the kid with drugs, as is killing him through negligence or stupidity while committing other crimes. Nobody is defending these guys or suggesting that they were treated too harshly. But you claims about it were simply inaccurate.
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