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Tom McDonald wrote:
> Matt Giwer wrote:
> 
>>Tom McDonald wrote:
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>>>Matt Giwer wrote:
>>>
>>>>Seppo Renfors wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>Doug Weller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>On 3 Apr 2006 06:36:51 -0700, in sci.archaeology, Tom McDonald wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Seppo Renfors wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Doug Weller wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>[..]
>>>>>
>>>>>>Seppo's really getting crazier and crazier.  Obviously I've never promoted
>>>>>>a Nazi site, nor is suggesting that someone had bad judgment a smear
>>>>>>(actually the suggestion originally came from a KRS supporter).
>>>>>
>>>>>LIAR! You know you have posted links to a site dealing in Nazi
>>>>>propaganda material!
>>>>>
>>>>>>I had no idea who Lenoir was when I replied, but whoever she/he is, it's
>>>>>>clearly not hyperoglyphe (funny, every post I could find by hyperoglyphe
>>>>>>that mentions Jews is anything but anti-Semitic, it couldn't be that Seppo
>>>>>>is wrong about him, eh?).
>>
>>>>>Oh dear..... so NAZI ideology is ONLY relevant to JEWS, is it? Perhaps
>>>>>Doug Weller is resorting to "white" washing the NAZIS now - of course
>>>>>they hated BLACKS as well
>>
>>>>	Actually I can't find one word in their literature on the subject of Blacks. If
>>>>you can please post the URLs.
>>
>>>>	There were so few in Germany they were treated mostly as a novelty. As Jesse
>>>>Owens observed, he didn't have to ride in the back of the bus. Yes, I know
>>>>Hitler did not congratulate him but neither did FDR. Jimmy Carter was the first
>>>>to issue the traditional invitation to the White House to congratulate him.
>>
>>>1. Specify the black people the German Nazis considered 'Herrenfolk.'
>>
>>	You do not get away with changing the subject in the middle of a thread.

> And you don't get away with avoiding the subject. Answer my perfectly
> reasonable question.

	The subject in my newsreader is Homo Neanderthalis. Perhaps your newsreader or 
ISP is fucked.

>>	You have presented not one word from the Nazis about Blacks. Please do so
>>before you continue.

> Alan did. Now answer my question.

	No he didn't. Read the response. And please do not pretend you knew what he 
posted before you piggybacked on his post. You would have presented your own 
without refering to the loser.

>>	And I have never found herrENvolk in their literature only herrNvolk which has
>>a different meaning.

> Define 'herrnvolk.' Define 'herrenvolk.' Give references. I have
> actually studied German, although it was a while ago, so it would be
> interesting to me to see what you come up with.

	As you know Herr is singular and Herren is the pluural you know Herrn is neither.

	And none of the above is Master rather to the modern the modern Mister. Herren 
und Damen is Gentlemen and Ladies. All refer to the meaning of Senor or Sire as 
in the modern Sir.

	No matter how hard you try you cannot get MASTER out of a word that at worst 
meant gentleman or mister as in Mr.

	So if you really wish to make a cat fight of Herren and Herrn you wind up in 
the same place, a FRAUDULENT translation to Master Race.

	But lets say it is not fraudulent. How do you explain the absense of the 
translation not being in the open literature as all the propagandists used it 
from the 30s onward. There has to be something glaring right there in the 1930s 
German-English dictionaries which give this translation.

>>>2. Learn that Nazism was not limited to Germany. You even had some
>>>Heroes of the American Nazi Party with whom you could commiserate, or
>>>could have commiserated.

>>	In fact Hitler said it was only applicable to Germany and did not support the
>>imitators outside of Germany.

> Hitler said a lot of idiotic things. He certainly did find it useful to
> export elements of Nazism. Recall the ausland volunteers in the Waffen
> SS.

	Actually there is no evidence he did except to counteract the much more 
extensive British propaganda campaign in the US. Fuck the Brits! They suckered 
Americans into both world wars.

	As for the Waffen SS. They all faught against Communism. They all deserved 
medals. The only good communist is a dead communist. Communism is worse than 
Nazism by every measure.

> He is dead, burned and buried, and his political views rule
> nowhere--except perhaps in your head.

	His economic principles rule the entire western world. No gold standard, 
deficit spending, forcing non-free enterprise to implement political objectives 
such as social security and prohibiting foreign trade in time of peace.

	Frankly I don't see any difference at all for the majority of Nazi policies 
which we now live under as a matter of course and happy with them.

>>	If you mean Lincoln Rockwell, that was not his name and he was born and raised
>>Jewish.

> So what, even if true? He was not the first American Nazi 'leader,' and
> was not the last. What does being Jewish have to do with anything?

	He was not a Nazi. He was something else regardless of what he called himself. 
The political agenda of the NSDAP is well known and I will give you a URL if you 
have not read it. He did not advocate any of it. But in his time it was all a 
matter of US government policy.

	If you want to advocate a Nazi policy, advocate universal health care for all 
Americans. That was their policy for Germans. Advocate restricting smoking. That 
was their policy. A research group Hitler funded from royalties from Mein Kampf 
established the first link between smoking and lung cancer in 1939.

	You really have to learn something about the subject before you pretend to talk 
about it.

	If you want to start picking and choosing among what they said to selectively 
condemn then you are going to accepting what they advocated like universal 
health care of at least 99.5% of the population.

>>>Hint: Nazism finds its catagorical hatreds where it lives. [That's one
>>>you can have for free to add to your silly 'Iron Webmaster' blather.]

>>	You are a really stupid shit to adopt the "hate" idea which is totally
>>irrational as are you.

> Hate may indeed be irrational. Its use and manipulation has been a
> staple of political regimes since Christ was a  corporal. The Nazis
> literally made hatred into a science. If you deny that, well, you're a
> denier of yet another true thing.

	Please to not introduce your religious nonsense into the discussion. You are 
ignorant enough already.

	Theologically speaking he still is corporeal in heaven. Get with the 10th century.

	Hatred is defined as an emotion. An emotion cannot be a science by definition.

>>Hint: You are an idiot.

> I may be. After all, I sometimes reply to you, and that's a bit
> idiotic.

> But I'm right, all the same; and you are waving in the breeze.

	The difference is I know the subject and you do not.

>>Someday I'll smack Matt Giwer in the head and tell him to grow up.

>>	-- The Iron Webmaster, 3612
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>>  Lawful to bomb Israelis http://www.giwersworld.org/israel/bombings.phtml a11

	Thanks for not deleting the URLs in the sig. I usually do delete but now it is 
in my first, your reply and my reply to you. And in this reply there is another.

	I might have the most common sig on a groups.google.com search by now. I know 
there are 130,000+ hits on my name alone.

-- 
Zionists could be used for fuel instead of oil as they are unfortunately a
renuable resource.
	-- The Iron Webmaster, 3619
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  Iraqi democracy http://www.giwersworld.org/911/armless.phtml a3