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In article <70l9km$1p3$1@whisper.globalserve.net>,
  yuku@globalserve.net (Yuri Kuchinsky) wrote:
> schlaf@my-dejanews.com wrote on Tue, 20 Oct 1998 12:28:50 GMT:
> : In article <mcculloch.2.60.362BE1C6@osu.edu>,
> :   mcculloch.2@osu.edu (Hu McCulloch) wrote:
>
> : > Oscar brought up nationality and religion as credentials for Payak and
> : > Sachan.
>
> :  No Mr. Kuchinsky brought it up, and continously brings it up on a number of
> : subjects.
>
> Schlaf is lying, of course, once again. I did no such thing.

 Your posts speak for themselves. I'd rather discuss history then debate
side issues.


> 	...
>
> :  Hindu mythology includes litature made up of thousands of stories in the
> : Puranas, Jatakas, ect.
> :   Yet not a one mentions anything resembling maize prior to the 1530s,
>
> This is ignorant nonsense, and assumes that we already know the ancient
> name of corn in India.

 Every plant mentioned in Hindu mythology has been identified & no physical
description matching maize has come forth.  Perhaps you can point to some
passage in the Puranas or Jatakas that suggests otherwise.....

> : when
> : the Portuguese & Spanish brought Maize to India, along with chilis and
several
> : other New World plants.
>
> : Also given the usefulness of maize, one would think it would spread rather
> : quickly
>
> And it did. It was all over Asia, including China.

 According to whom?  Even the more nationalistic Chinese don't claim as
such(see Tom Goodman....)


> : (even asuming it was whiped out later by a blight).
>
> Myself, I do not share Hu's blight theory.



> : And with it's
> : spread one would think to see many representations of it in the art of India
> : such as the Temple complexes of Sanchi, Mamallapuram, Ellura, Bhubaneswar,
> : Konark, ect. ect.
>
> We have plenty of such portrayals.

 Not at any of the sites I mentioned which are major sites, and the ones
you do have are subject to interpetation and represent a small small amount of
the literally millions of temple carvings throughout India.

> 	...
>
> : > Johannessen and Parker and Gupta have documented plenty of
> : > ancient pictures of it, carved in stone.
>
> :  The majority of objects could be as easily interpeted as any number of
> : other
> : fruits/vegtables.
>
> False.

 Why is it false? Others besides Gupta have identified some of the statues
as something other then Maize, such as Sachan & Payak....

> 	...
>
> : > Good point, but my suspicion is that archaeologists have simply dismissed
> : > all corncobs they have found as obviously (indeed, diagnostically) post-
> : > Columbian.
>
> :  It's common practice to test all organic materials found at digs,
> : irreguardless of personal ideas.
>
> This assumes that all archaeological excavations in India in the
> past conformed to latest modern standards.

 As does many of your theories, like on Easter Island, among the Olmec, and
the Incan sites. If your wish to dismiss all archaeological findings prior to
radio carbon dating & general acceptance of archaeological guidelines, then
many things about Pre-Columbian explorers to the Americas has to be dismissed
included the KRS stone....

  And it's still rather odd that in over 40 years of radio carbon dating that
no corn cob datin prior to 1500 ad has been found at any site in India.



                                         ---Oscar Schlaf---


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