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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:47:02 -0800, Rev Turd Fredericks
<turdfred2@catholic.org> wrote:

>Shenan Stanley wrote:
>> Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>>> Everybody rightly criticizes Micro$tiff for selling a crappy OS, and
>>> Linux is obviuosly better, if you have the time and the expertise
>>> to use in it, but until this week I didn't understand exaclty why
>>> Windows is such a POS.
>>>
>>> When I had to uninstall the Google toolbar because Google installed
>>> an update tht I didn't ask for, which overrode IE5's ctrl-f
>>> command, the reason beame clear.  Windows' install/uninstall method
>>> causes bugs to accumulate, if programs are not ununstalled in
>>> precise the reverse order of which they were installed.
>>>
>>> The problem is that terrible method of saving old copies of system
>>> files, like .ini files, as backups, to be restored when software is
>>> uninstalled.  So the more apps you uninstall, out of order, the
>>> buggier your system becomes, until you finally have to reinstall
>>> the OS.
>>>
>>> Linux apparently doesn't have anything resembling this problem,
>>> which makes me wonder, how did the Linux designers (Torvald?)
>>> handle this problem, and can we learn anything from their solution
>>> to help minimize the problem with Windows?
>>>
>>> Your thoughts?
>> 
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> I think you have made gross generalizations based off personal
>>> experience - which are usually proven inaccurate (at best.)
>>>
>>> I utilize many different operating systems (and flavors/versions of
>>> said operating systems) and if there is a single OS that is not
>>> lacking in one or more (mostly more after years of use on any given
>>> OS) ways, I have yet to come across it.  Many times - some of the
>>> 'problems' found could have been avoided with experience and
>>> know-how on the part of the user - which is acceptable in most
>>> cases because I don't believe someone whould 'hold my hand' in
>>> everything I do.  Also - many times - it is a 'personal' issue with
>>> the OS - meaning it won't do something the end-user believes it
>>> *should* do.
>>> As far as your gross generalizations - I have a system I have been
>>> running since Windows XP was released.  It has been through two
>>> different sets of hardware, several hardware failures, many *MANY*
>>> installations and software removals and is now finally running as a
>>> VirtualBox machine on top of my Windows Vista and Windows Vista x64
>>> Ultimate machines.  I have *not* had to 'reinstall my OS' (assuming
>>> you mean a clean installation) nor did it ever slow down in any way
>>> I did not expect (when you upgrade applications, seldom do they
>>> actually utilize less resources than their prior versions...)
>>> In my specific experience - Windows (XP, Vista and some prior
>>> versions to a certain extent) are fairly stable operating systems
>>> that have given me personally little trouble.  I've thrown a lot at
>>> them - and my experience is not limited to just the applications I
>>> utilize on a daily basis nor is my experience limited to just one
>>> or two hardware configurations (I would put myself in the thousands
>>> (possibly tens of thousands), easily, as far as how many different
>>> hardware configurations I have had to deal with in the years since
>>> Windows XP was first released alone.)  I also pull from the
>>> experience of those whose systems I have cleaned up from a mess or
>>> setup initially - in that they seldom have the same trouble after a
>>> little configuration and a little tutoring on how to properly
>>> utilize their system.
>>> YMMV.
>> 
>> Rev Turd Fredericks wrote:
>>> After your assertion that personal experience is "inaccurate (at
>>> best)", your whole post has become a meaningless diatribe.
>> 
>> Not what I said.
>> 
>> I said, "I think you have made gross generalizations based off personal 
>> experience - which are usually proven inaccurate (at best.)"
>> 
>> It's the 'gross generalizations based off personal experience', not the 
>> personal experiences themselves.  There is nothing wrong with personal 
>> experiences and if built up and combined many times - personal experience 
>> can become pretty strong evidence.  The original poster had ... seems to be 
>> ... one personal experience and made an assertion that their personal 
>> experience proved a point when combined with the trouble they saw (but had 
>> no personal experience with) in the newsgroups (the whole 'walk into an 
>> emergency room and assume the whole world has an epidemic of broken arms' 
>> scenario...) - a "gross generalization".
>> 
>> It's best to read the entire message you respond to - not just one part.
>> 
>It's best not to backpedal when you say something stupid.

Does that mean you won't be?

Seriously, context really isn't *THAT* difficult to grasp...although
it seems to be the number one problem with online communication.

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