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On Sun, 21 Dec 2008 11:46:14 -0800, catchme <someone@somewhere.net>
wrote:

>Rev Turd Fredericks wrote:
>> Shenan Stanley wrote:
>>> Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
>>>> Everybody rightly criticizes Micro$tiff for selling a crappy OS, and
>>>> Linux is obviuosly better, if you have the time and the expertise
>>>> to use in it, but until this week I didn't understand exaclty why
>>>> Windows is such a POS.
>>>>
>>>> When I had to uninstall the Google toolbar because Google installed
>>>> an update tht I didn't ask for, which overrode IE5's ctrl-f
>>>> command, the reason beame clear.  Windows' install/uninstall method
>>>> causes bugs to accumulate, if programs are not ununstalled in
>>>> precise the reverse order of which they were installed.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that terrible method of saving old copies of system
>>>> files, like .ini files, as backups, to be restored when software is
>>>> uninstalled.  So the more apps you uninstall, out of order, the
>>>> buggier your system becomes, until you finally have to reinstall
>>>> the OS.
>>>>
>>>> Linux apparently doesn't have anything resembling this problem,
>>>> which makes me wonder, how did the Linux designers (Torvald?)
>>>> handle this problem, and can we learn anything from their solution
>>>> to help minimize the problem with Windows?
>>>>
>>>> Your thoughts?
>>>
>>> I think you have made gross generalizations based off personal 
>>> experience - which are usually proven inaccurate (at best.)
>>>
>>> I utilize many different operating systems (and flavors/versions of 
>>> said operating systems) and if there is a single OS that is not 
>>> lacking in one or more (mostly more after years of use on any given 
>>> OS) ways, I have yet to come across it.  Many times - some of the 
>>> 'problems' found could have been avoided with experience and know-how 
>>> on the part of the user - which is acceptable in most cases because I 
>>> don't believe someone whould 'hold my hand' in everything I do.  Also 
>>> - many times - it is a 'personal' issue with the OS - meaning it won't 
>>> do something the end-user believes it *should* do.
>>>
>>> As far as your gross generalizations - I have a system I have been 
>>> running since Windows XP was released.  It has been through two 
>>> different sets of hardware, several hardware failures, many *MANY* 
>>> installations and software removals and is now finally running as a 
>>> VirtualBox machine on top of my Windows Vista and Windows Vista x64 
>>> Ultimate machines.  I have *not* had to 'reinstall my OS' (assuming 
>>> you mean a clean installation) nor did it ever slow down in any way I 
>>> did not expect (when you upgrade applications, seldom do they actually 
>>> utilize less resources than their prior versions...)
>>>
>>> In my specific experience - Windows (XP, Vista and some prior versions 
>>> to a certain extent) are fairly stable operating systems that have 
>>> given me personally little trouble.  I've thrown a lot at them - and 
>>> my experience is not limited to just the applications I utilize on a 
>>> daily basis nor is my experience limited to just one or two hardware 
>>> configurations (I would put myself in the thousands (possibly tens of 
>>> thousands), easily, as far as how many different hardware 
>>> configurations I have had to deal with in the years since Windows XP 
>>> was first released alone.)  I also pull from the experience of those 
>>> whose systems I have cleaned up from a mess or setup initially - in 
>>> that they seldom have the same trouble after a little configuration 
>>> and a little tutoring on how to properly utilize their system.
>>>
>>> YMMV.
>>>
>> After your assertion that personal experience is "inaccurate (at best)", 
>> your whole post has become a meaningless diatribe.
>
>actually he has eloquently described why every major o/s has the same 
>fundamental flaw: feature creep and bug-fix/ patches.....in other words, 
>bloatware.
>I can only hope that his follow- up post will be an announcement of a 
>new o/s he and/or some friends built from the ground up.

No, actually he missed a rather large and very important issue and the
fundamental reason as to *WHY* so many people have trouble with their
software.

Can't guess what it is?

Let me ask you this...what is your SOFTware running on?

Yeah, that's right, HARDware.  If you're running your software with
shit grade, factory seconds, refurbished garbage that you bought off
eBay or pulled out of some fuckin Dell shit box...yeah...yer gonna be
having all ~sorts~ of trouble gettin that bitch stay up for longer
than five minutes without some kind of system crash.  I've found that
a good 9 out of 10 times whatever "problem" a user is having is either
because they're a fuckin idiot with a short between the keyboard and
chair, or they're running their system on shit grade hardware.

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