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Article #3899Re: Now I Understand
From: Shenan Stanley
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:33
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 15:33
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Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
> Everybody rightly criticizes Micro$tiff for selling a crappy OS, and
> Linux is obviuosly better, if you have the time and the expertise
> to use in it, but until this week I didn't understand exaclty why
> Windows is such a POS.
>
> When I had to uninstall the Google toolbar because Google installed
> an update tht I didn't ask for, which overrode IE5's ctrl-f
> command, the reason beame clear. Windows' install/uninstall method
> causes bugs to accumulate, if programs are not ununstalled in
> precise the reverse order of which they were installed.
>
> The problem is that terrible method of saving old copies of system
> files, like .ini files, as backups, to be restored when software is
> uninstalled. So the more apps you uninstall, out of order, the
> buggier your system becomes, until you finally have to reinstall
> the OS.
>
> Linux apparently doesn't have anything resembling this problem,
> which makes me wonder, how did the Linux designers (Torvald?)
> handle this problem, and can we learn anything from their solution
> to help minimize the problem with Windows?
>
> Your thoughts?
philo wrote:
> I've been using Linux almost as long as I've been using Windows.
>
> Linux is not immune from it's own problems...
> and unless one is very familiar with Linux...the problems can
> sometimes be harder to sort out.
>
> That said, with a little bit of common sense, Windows should not
> require a re-install.
> I run mainly Win2k and XP and they have both been running 99% +
> trouble free for *many* years.
Bluuuue Rajah wrote:
> You're living in a fantasy world. Everybody knows that Windows
> slowly accumulates bugs. They've known almost from day one, when
> people started griping about what a POS it was.
jmfbahciv wrote:
> Every OS accumulates bugs. That's reality, son.
>
> /BHA
Lookout wrote:
> Not if your regularly use a registry cleaner. I use FixIt Utilities
> and to delete invalid or no longer need registry entries and files.
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> That's a very dangerous and poor thing to do, in my view.
>
> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the
> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and
> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and
> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of,
> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you.
>
> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner
> erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any
> potential benefit it may have.
>
> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html
Lookout wrote:
> I'm sure it's something you're not capable of working with. In my
> view it's a great way to keep your system humming.
Ken Blake, MVP wrote:
> You are certainly entitled to that view, if that's what you believe.
> But as far as I'm concerned, you're dead wrong.
N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote:
> Dear Ken Blake, MVP:
>
> So how do *you* get rid of Norton Anti-virus? RegClean.exe didn'
> touch it...
>
> David A. Smith
Lookout wrote:
> First..I wouldn't install it.
> 2nd...just cleaning your registry won't uninstall a program. If
> that's what you're trying to do then you really shouldn't be
> installing programs to begin with...you're way out of your league.
> 3rd...I don't use RegClean. As I said I use FixIt Utilities and I
> explained the process I use.
> 4th..I'd type "How do I uninstall Norton AntiVirus" in Google and
> I'd find
> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS291&q=how+do+i+uninstall+norton+antivirus&aq=1&oq=how+do+I+uninstall+nort
>
> As I said you're way out of your league. You should learn to ask
> politely and you'll get more help.
Courtney Josten wrote:
> Do you recommend jv16 because I've nearly always had to reinsatll
> after deleting keys in the registry.
>
> I particularly like the advanced option which cleans up everything,
> it takes longer, but it's more effective.
Lookout wrote:
> I have no idea what jv16 is.
Actually - that is surprising in many ways.
It is a fairly well established windows optimization and tuneup tool. It
used to be a free 'registry cleaner' plus. It's been around and recommended
by many for quite a while.
jv16 PowerTools
http://www.macecraft.com/
That combined with today's search engines - you could have found out. ;-)
http://tinyurl.com/9j6e3d
Last Free uncrippled version:
http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/index.html
HTH!
--
Shenan Stanley
MS-MVP
--
How To Ask Questions The Smart Way
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
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