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Article #3900Re: Now I Understand
From: Lookout
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:23
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 16:23
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On Mon, 22 Dec 2008 09:33:22 -0600, "Shenan Stanley" <newshelper@gmail.com> wrote: >Bluuuue Rajah wrote: >> Everybody rightly criticizes Micro$tiff for selling a crappy OS, and >> Linux is obviuosly better, if you have the time and the expertise >> to use in it, but until this week I didn't understand exaclty why >> Windows is such a POS. >> >> When I had to uninstall the Google toolbar because Google installed >> an update tht I didn't ask for, which overrode IE5's ctrl-f >> command, the reason beame clear. Windows' install/uninstall method >> causes bugs to accumulate, if programs are not ununstalled in >> precise the reverse order of which they were installed. >> >> The problem is that terrible method of saving old copies of system >> files, like .ini files, as backups, to be restored when software is >> uninstalled. So the more apps you uninstall, out of order, the >> buggier your system becomes, until you finally have to reinstall >> the OS. >> >> Linux apparently doesn't have anything resembling this problem, >> which makes me wonder, how did the Linux designers (Torvald?) >> handle this problem, and can we learn anything from their solution >> to help minimize the problem with Windows? >> >> Your thoughts? > >philo wrote: >> I've been using Linux almost as long as I've been using Windows. >> >> Linux is not immune from it's own problems... >> and unless one is very familiar with Linux...the problems can >> sometimes be harder to sort out. >> >> That said, with a little bit of common sense, Windows should not >> require a re-install. >> I run mainly Win2k and XP and they have both been running 99% + >> trouble free for *many* years. > >Bluuuue Rajah wrote: >> You're living in a fantasy world. Everybody knows that Windows >> slowly accumulates bugs. They've known almost from day one, when >> people started griping about what a POS it was. > >jmfbahciv wrote: >> Every OS accumulates bugs. That's reality, son. >> >> /BHA > >Lookout wrote: >> Not if your regularly use a registry cleaner. I use FixIt Utilities >> and to delete invalid or no longer need registry entries and files. > >Ken Blake, MVP wrote: >> That's a very dangerous and poor thing to do, in my view. >> >> Registry cleaning programs are *all* snake oil. Cleaning of the >> registry isn't needed and is dangerous. Leave the registry alone and >> don't use any registry cleaner. Despite what many people think, and >> what vendors of registry cleaning software try to convince you of, >> having unused registry entries doesn't really hurt you. >> >> The risk of a serious problem caused by a registry cleaner >> erroneously removing an entry you need is far greater than any >> potential benefit it may have. >> >> Read http://www.edbott.com/weblog/archives/000643.html > >Lookout wrote: >> I'm sure it's something you're not capable of working with. In my >> view it's a great way to keep your system humming. > >Ken Blake, MVP wrote: >> You are certainly entitled to that view, if that's what you believe. >> But as far as I'm concerned, you're dead wrong. > >N:dlzc D:aol T:com (dlzc) wrote: >> Dear Ken Blake, MVP: >> >> So how do *you* get rid of Norton Anti-virus? RegClean.exe didn' >> touch it... >> >> David A. Smith > >Lookout wrote: >> First..I wouldn't install it. >> 2nd...just cleaning your registry won't uninstall a program. If >> that's what you're trying to do then you really shouldn't be >> installing programs to begin with...you're way out of your league. >> 3rd...I don't use RegClean. As I said I use FixIt Utilities and I >> explained the process I use. >> 4th..I'd type "How do I uninstall Norton AntiVirus" in Google and >> I'd find >> http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=1G1GGLQ_ENUS291&q=how+do+i+uninstall+norton+antivirus&aq=1&oq=how+do+I+uninstall+nort >> >> As I said you're way out of your league. You should learn to ask >> politely and you'll get more help. > >Courtney Josten wrote: >> Do you recommend jv16 because I've nearly always had to reinsatll >> after deleting keys in the registry. >> >> I particularly like the advanced option which cleans up everything, >> it takes longer, but it's more effective. > >Lookout wrote: >> I have no idea what jv16 is. > >Actually - that is surprising in many ways. Surprising that I don't know about a program I have no use for? That's a pretty stupid statement. > >It is a fairly well established windows optimization and tuneup tool. It >used to be a free 'registry cleaner' plus. It's been around and recommended >by many for quite a while. > >jv16 PowerTools >http://www.macecraft.com/ > >That combined with today's search engines - you could have found out. ;-) >http://tinyurl.com/9j6e3d I had no reason to look it up. I simply said I've never heard of it. >Last Free uncrippled version: >http://www.321download.com/LastFreeware/index.html > >HTH! > >-- >Shenan Stanley > MS-MVP
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