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Article #4780Re: pi (was Re: Is lightvelocity accelerating?)
From: Erik Max Francis
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 04:24
Date: Tue, 21 Mar 1995 04:24
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son3776@utdallas.edu writes:
> Carl J Lydick (carl@SOL1.GPS.CALTECH.EDU) wrote:
>
> > Now we see one of son's problems: He hasn't a clue as to the meaning of th
> > term "surface."
>
> I know what the surface of the earth is. And I know that if one cuts
> through the earth to get the correct diamter for a planar circle, then
> the relationship is pi=C/D.
The problem is that this indicates very strongly that you do not
understand the _mathematical_ definition of a surface. A surface does
not necessarily (nor does it uniquely in any case) have an embedding.
That is, mathematically speaking, for generalized surfaces, there is
no "through" to cut through to get your "correct" diameter of a
"planar circle." The concept is quite simply misguided.
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