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I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos /
ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

If not on the Sabbath (Saturday) as our peaceful and transcendent
chronological understanding of Divine Providence as the first-ARCHE
principles-STOICHEION {

ie. the elements such as the letters of the alphabet, as the rudiments,
primary and fundamental principles of any art, science, or discipline may be
considered as a paradigm, the pattern or example, a set of concepts etc.,
that are shared by a community of scholars or scientists: Telos = Arch + c�

} of the oracles-LOGION {ie. the 10 Commandments [Romans 3:1-2] of
God-THEOS" [Hebrews 5:12-14]--when do you think your propaganda becomes
psychological terrorism?

Or do you consider that the God of the Hebrews/Greeks (et al = "And how is
it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? [Acts
2:5-12]) as Jews and Christiansis is somehow sub-ordinated by deity made of
planetary associations--Should we not regard as an anathema Baal-Poer or
Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>

"Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
news:EFiMc.13371$K53.3374@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
[snipped rant]

From: freethemedia2002@yahoo.com (Arther Miller)
Newsgroups:
soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada
Subject: The Unjust media
Date: 26 Aug 2003 19:28:42 -0700

"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:S7kMc.13456$K53.10907@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
> http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
> lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos
/
> ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.
>
Snip---------------- load of propaganda
Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
1. I should listen only to Jews
2. read only Jewishwebsites.
3. properly brainwashed christians?

And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
a untrue
b. reflects only one view.
c. I should not believe on principle.
Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
reparations to other Jews disgust?
Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support of
any self respecting God?
Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to keep
you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
grasp.
And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have on
God .

And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the present
century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
government under the christian God of understanding and charity.

A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
Christians?
http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm


And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the christian
community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.




> - dolf
> - <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>
>
> "Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
> news:EFiMc.13371$K53.3374@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> [snipped rant]
>
> From: freethemedia2002@yahoo.com (Arther Miller)
> Newsgroups:
> soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.british,soc.culture.usa,soc.culture.canada
> Subject: The Unjust media
> Date: 26 Aug 2003 19:28:42 -0700
>
>

I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
racialisms as ideology:

"The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of
Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

"Say: He is Allah, {Nature contains Nature}
The One and Only. {Nature rejoices in its Nature}
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. {Nature surmounts Nature}
"He begets not, nor is He begotten. {Nature amended in its Nature}
And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur'an 112:1-4] {Act of Nature 'LIKE'
= 'HOMOIOS"}

The word 'Assamad' is difficult to translate. It means 'absolute existence',
which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being
temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant on
any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him." [by
Dr. Zakir Naik, "The Most Concise Definition of God',
<http://www.theunjustmedia.com/>]

I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos /
ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

As far as attributions of Nature goes, it is the Sabbath (Saturday) by which
we may obtain our peaceful and transcendent chronological understanding of
Divine Providence as the first-ARCHE principles-STOICHEION {

ie. the elements such as the letters of the alphabet, as the rudiments,
primary and fundamental principles of any art, science, or discipline may be
considered as a paradigm, the pattern or example, a set of concepts etc.,
that are shared by a community of scholars or scientists: Telos = Arch + c�

} of the oracles-LOGION {ie. the 10 Commandments [Romans 3:1-2] of
God-THEOS" [Hebrews 5:12-14]

And this would appear to be consistent with the Natural, Regulative and
Metempirical Philosophical origin of language, it's relationship to the
theory of number and considerations as to whether a heuristic {a method of
solving problems; one for which no algorithm heretofore exists and therefore
depends on inductive (ie. some reaction within the organism) reasoning from
past experience of similar problems} exists that is attributed to a
chronological based hermeneutic as 'a priori'.  It is a nomenclature known
as the traditional Great Chain of Being, body to mind to soul to spirit or
cosmic hierarchy, which had traditionally been derived as Angels from the
anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21].

And therefore by implication the articulation of religious belief, thought
and conscience as values expression inclusive of one's self {ie. own-IDIOS
body-SOMA} which is compliant to those principles of religious liberty
espoused by the United Nations International Covenant of Civil and Political
Rights (ICCPR), but represented mathematically by a fourfold vMeme/Moment
Kabbalistic 9(9� +1)/2 = #369 Matrix {ie. HOMOIS meaning 'like, sameness'
being related to Numbers as the square 9� = 81 or the product of two equal
factors; Plato's 'ADELPHOIS NOMOIS'}, being the basis for a theological,
metaphysical philosophical and chronological retort--A 369 day chronological
and mathematical matrix known from antiquity as the Merkabah (ie.
Kabbalistic) mystical (transcendent and metaphysical) foundation for a
perennial solar/lunar [ie. 9(9� +1)/2 (#369) - 3(3� +1)/2 (#15) = 354 lunar
cycle] and organizational philosophy uniting reason and faith and mechanism
for governance as the regulative & natural philosophical principles
underpinning our Australian Constitution and legislative framework [#51,
#66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government /#9, #72].

The metaphor that the sun and the moon are sub-ordinate to a natural,
regulative and metempirical power as transcendent principle in consequence
of Providence, is that which Philo of Alexandria 20BCE-50CE as Jewish
political and theological propagandist, was "unable to trace out accurately
[concerning] the respective natures and powers of each, therefore, [is]
reduced to silence about them." {

If Philo of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 CE) is to be regarded as a political and
theological propagandist on behalf of Judaism of later antiquity, or
Josephus (37-100 CE) as an historical revisionist, the expressions which
characterize Old Testament usage the Greek word 'Hodos' or the Hebrew word
'Derek' (German for 'Ruler') as a systematic approach to governance and
claim to Christian beliefseems not to find any empathy with them. [TDNT �
1967, 1995 edition V:65]

} But nevertheless remains analogous with the Philosopher Plato's insight
that consciousness of God rests in reason, the supreme function of man's
spiritual life.  With which he contributed to the religious philosophy of
antiquity one of its most fruitful concepts: "...that reason, in virtue of
its knowledge of virtue, also controls moral action, is made clear in the
metaphor of the helmsman. As in the microcosm, man, so in the universe there
rules as king of heaven and earth (alethinos kai theios nous). In
intercourse and marriage with pure being (to auti autos) man brings forth
nous (mind) and aletheia (truth) [1 John 5:20]." [KITTEL 1995 IV:954]

By the way, the most concise definition of God, within Islam appears
insubstantial.

The Greek word HOMOIOS meaning 'similar or like' which is often used in
parabolic mystery formulas as being descriptive of the nature of the kingdom
of heaven [Matthew 13:24-52], implies that the same equitable
power-EXOUSIAZO as autonomy over his/her own-IDIOS body-SOMA is granted to
the individual as being unequivocally equal rights pursued as the Way with
virtue and integrity [1 Corinthians 7:2-4]. That is, the term HOMOIOS means:

i) Of the same kind; like or resembling;
(1) those who have the same position and rights;
ii) Of like disposition; the same;
(1) men of the same mind or party; of the same rank or station
(2) expression of closeness of agreement
(3) one and the same
(4) the same as usual
(5) all one to us
(6) homois antapodidonai give 'tit for tat'
(7) on equal terms, in fair fight
iii) In relation to possessions, 'belonging equally in common'
(1) accruing equally to all, general
(2) approaching all equally
iv) In geometry, 'similar' of figures'
(1) of triangles in the sense of equal
(2) of numbers (the square of a number as the product of two equal factors
v) Emphasizing the agreement by which one thing is similar or equal to
another
vi) Hebrew equivalent is Mem (#40) + Yod (#10) + Final Nun (#50 / #500) =
#100 / #550 {species as one of the same nature, form, class, kind, same;
stalk of corn; him, her, it; sexual intercourse, salaciousness; feast of
dedication of a temple / Arrow; By; Aphrodite Cythereia as the Greek Goddess
associated with the planet Venus, of eternal beauty and erotic desire who
according to legend, when taken to Olympus and presented to Zeus and the
other gods. Everyone admired her and was dazzled by her beauty. She had many
sexual relationships including Zeus (Jupiter), Ares (Mars), Poseidon, her
brothers Hermes and Dionysus and mortals such as Anchises a prince of
Dardania (near Troy), as many of those who wanted her as their own wife.

According to mythical accounts given of Greek legend, Priapus was conceived
from an illicit rape and solicitations by Zeus (or Dionysus) of Aphrodite;
but Hera as Zeus' wife in a jealous rage performed an incantation on the
still pregnant Aphrodite, rendering the infant deformed by enlarged
genitalia. Priapus was the god who presided over the fertility of vegetable
crops. He was also worshipped as the protector of sheep, goats, bees, the
vine, and of all garden produce. The god depicted here in a fresco from the
ancient Roman city of Pompeii (destroyed in 79 CE -
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/images\priapism.jpg>) is of a
dwarfish man with oversized red genitals and wearing a Phygian cap. His
statue was set-up in vegetable plots to promote garden fertility but doubled
as a 'scarecrow' to keep away birds};

Or Kaf (#20) + Mem (#40) + Vav (#6) = #66 {like = HOMOIOS; damage, loss;
babbler as spermologist [Acts 17:16-21] or seed-picker as crow [Matthew
13:3-30; Mark 4:3-29; Luke 8:5-18]; total books in the bible}
(1) [#66, #15, #76, #25 - What's behind it all?/ Imaging the Mysterious/
#72, #10]
(2) [#51, #66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government/
#73, #9]
(3) [#26, #10, #66, #5 - Natural Guidance/ The Function of Emptiness/ #54,
#28]
(4) [#22, #74, #56, #66 - Strategic Reversal/ Putting Oneself Behind/ #36,
#46]
(5) [#48, #55, #19, #49 - Sage's Constancy/ Trust in Virtue/ #66, #16]
(6) [#34, #65, #63, #33 - Achievable Goals/ The Virtue of Discrimation/ #16,
#66]

Among the Spartans and in other aristocratic and oligarchical {ie. where
power is vested in the few} societies, the term 'hoi homoioi' describes
individuals of the same rank or station. It is over the inscription upon the
altar to the 'agnostos theos' (Unknown God) to which the Apostle Paul
directs his defence against ridicule. Even though history fails to record
the decisive term 'Xenos' as 'stranger or an anonymous hero-saviour'
associated as the character central to the drama of the event on Mars Hill,
the Athenians serious intent is established by Jerome's (c. 347-420 CE) note
on the inscription: 'Diis Asiae et Europae et Africae diis ignotis et
peregrinis {ie. Of divine matters Asia, Europe and Africa are destitute,
being ignorant as foreigners or barbarians of the substance of things}'. But
above all it is God's answer to a serious question, like the no less
specifically oriented address by the Apostle Peter in [Acts 2:12-39]. The
Athenians, of course, ask in the sense of a religio eventualis {ie. true
religion is the result of action}, whereas Paul proclaims, not the one
unknown and true god of the philosophy of religion with all their illicit
sexual affairs and procreations embellished by mythology, but the very
different God, whom for the world is in fact a strange God in the ultimate
sense. [KITTEL 1995, V:8] "Let brotherly-philadelphia love-philadelphia
continue-meno. Do not forget-epilanthanomai to entertain-philonexia
strangers-philonexia, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained
angels. Remember the prisoners as if chained with them, and those who are
mistreated, since we ourselves are in the body also. Marriage is honorable
among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will
judge." [Hebrews 13:1-4]

The Apostle Paul therefore uses the term relating to knowing the 'UNKNOWN
GOD' within the context of the classical Greek poets: ".For we are also his
offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to
think that the Godhead-THEIOS is like-HOMOIOS unto gold, or silver, or
stone, graven by art and man's device." [Acts 17:28-29]  As the basis for
his observation on the cultic view of deity given to idolatry [Acts 17:16;
Acts 19:25-28], the Godhead cannot be represented by a likeness of any
object including male and female, since it is not like gold or silver or
stone or a statue graven by the device of man. [TDNT 1998 V:187-188]

When do you think your propaganda becomes psychological terrorism?

Or do you consider that the God of the Hebrews/Greeks (et al = "And how is
it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? [Acts
2:5-12]) as Jews and Christians is somehow sub-ordinated by deity made of
planetary associations--Should we not regard as an anathema Baal-Poer or
Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>

"Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Snip---------------- load of propaganda
Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
1. I should listen only to Jews
2. read only Jewishwebsites.
3. properly brainwashed christians?

And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
a untrue
b. reflects only one view.
c. I should not believe on principle.
Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
reparations to other Jews disgust?
Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support of
any self respecting God?
Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to keep
you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
grasp.
And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have on
God .

And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the present
century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
government under the christian God of understanding and charity.

A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
Christians?
http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm

And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the christian
community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.

"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:nomMc.13619$K53.13288@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
> without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
> racialisms as ideology:
>
> "The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses
of
> Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

Cnsider if you will your suister country
http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm
http://www.genocidewatch.org/sudansilence.htm

And your greatest fear?

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

 And the greatest actuality
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

> - <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>
>
> "Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
> news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> Snip---------------- load of propaganda
> Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
> 1. I should listen only to Jews
> 2. read only Jewishwebsites.
> 3. properly brainwashed christians?
>
> And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
> a untrue
> b. reflects only one view.
> c. I should not believe on principle.
> Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
> Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
> Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
> reparations to other Jews disgust?
> Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support
of
> any self respecting God?
> Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to
keep
> you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
> grasp.
> And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
> and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have
on
> God .
>
> And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the
present
> century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
> government under the christian God of understanding and charity.
>
> A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
> HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
> Christians?
> http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm
>
> And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the
christian
> community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
> forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.
>
>
>
>

I'm not Jewish mate, so I don't know why you are continuing that line of
argument.

I notice that you have no answers which substantiate the claim that Allah
constitutes the most concise definition of God as 'absolute existence' which
is 'like nothing', than something more a linguistic conception of hermetic
mysticism as philosophy or theology of the magians--an aberration of
reality: "Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me, But
this I confess to you, that according to the Way {Gk. HODOS / Heb. DEREK (of
peace-SHALOM) [Romans 3:17]} which they call a sect [Acts 28:22], so I
worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the
Law and the Prophets. I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept,
that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the
unjust." [Acts 24:13-15]

- dolf

"Jackeroo" <jackeroo@rocknospam.com> wrote in message
news:41020952$0$16107$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Cnsider if you will your suister country
http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm
http://www.genocidewatch.org/sudansilence.htm

And your greatest fear?

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

 And the greatest actuality
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

QOLON NOTE:
I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
racialisms as ideology:

"The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of
Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

"Say: He is Allah, {Nature contains Nature}
The One and Only. {Nature rejoices in its Nature}
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. {Nature surmounts Nature}
"He begets not, nor is He begotten. {Nature amended in its Nature}
And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur'an 112:1-4] {Act of Nature 'LIKE'
= 'HOMOIOS"}

The word 'Assamad' is difficult to translate. It means 'absolute existence',
which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being
temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant on
any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him." [by
Dr. Zakir Naik, "The Most Concise Definition of God',
<http://www.theunjustmedia.com/>]

I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos /
ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

As far as attributions of Nature goes, it is the Sabbath (Saturday) by which
we may obtain our peaceful and transcendent chronological understanding of
Divine Providence as the first-ARCHE principles-STOICHEION {

ie. the elements such as the letters of the alphabet, as the rudiments,
primary and fundamental principles of any art, science, or discipline may be
considered as a paradigm, the pattern or example, a set of concepts etc.,
that are shared by a community of scholars or scientists: Telos = Arch + c�

} of the oracles-LOGION {ie. the 10 Commandments [Romans 3:1-2] of
God-THEOS" [Hebrews 5:12-14]

And this would appear to be consistent with the Natural, Regulative and
Metempirical Philosophical origin of language, it's relationship to the
theory of number and considerations as to whether a heuristic {a method of
solving problems; one for which no algorithm heretofore exists and therefore
depends on inductive (ie. some reaction within the organism) reasoning from
past experience of similar problems} exists that is attributed to a
chronological based hermeneutic as 'a priori'.  It is a nomenclature known
as the traditional Great Chain of Being, body to mind to soul to spirit or
cosmic hierarchy, which had traditionally been derived as Angels from the
anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21].

And therefore by implication the articulation of religious belief, thought
and conscience as values expression inclusive of one's self {ie. own-IDIOS
body-SOMA} which is compliant to those principles of religious liberty
espoused by the United Nations International Covenant of Civil and Political
Rights (ICCPR), but represented mathematically by a fourfold vMeme/Moment
Kabbalistic 9(9� +1)/2 = #369 Matrix {ie. HOMOIS meaning 'like, sameness'
being related to Numbers as the square 9� = 81 or the product of two equal
factors; Plato's 'ADELPHOIS NOMOIS'}, being the basis for a theological,
metaphysical philosophical and chronological retort--A 369 day chronological
and mathematical matrix known from antiquity as the Merkabah (ie.
Kabbalistic) mystical (transcendent and metaphysical) foundation for a
perennial solar/lunar [ie. 9(9� +1)/2 (#369) - 3(3� +1)/2 (#15) = 354 lunar
cycle] and organizational philosophy uniting reason and faith and mechanism
for governance as the regulative & natural philosophical principles
underpinning our Australian Constitution and legislative framework [#51,
#66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government /#9, #72].

The metaphor that the sun and the moon are sub-ordinate to a natural,
regulative and metempirical power as transcendent principle in consequence
of Providence, is that which Philo of Alexandria 20BCE-50CE as Jewish
political and theological propagandist, was "unable to trace out accurately
[concerning] the respective natures and powers of each, therefore, [is]
reduced to silence about them." {

If Philo of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 CE) is to be regarded as a political and
theological propagandist on behalf of Judaism of later antiquity, or
Josephus (37-100 CE) as an historical revisionist, the expressions which
characterize Old Testament usage the Greek word 'Hodos' or the Hebrew word
'Derek' (German for 'Ruler') as a systematic approach to governance and
claim to Christian beliefseems not to find any empathy with them. [TDNT �
1967, 1995 edition V:65]

} But nevertheless remains analogous with the Philosopher Plato's insight
that consciousness of God rests in reason, the supreme function of man's
spiritual life.  With which he contributed to the religious philosophy of
antiquity one of its most fruitful concepts: "...that reason, in virtue of
its knowledge of virtue, also controls moral action, is made clear in the
metaphor of the helmsman. As in the microcosm, man, so in the universe there
rules as king of heaven and earth (alethinos kai theios nous). In
intercourse and marriage with pure being (to auti autos) man brings forth
nous (mind) and aletheia (truth) [1 John 5:20]." [KITTEL 1995 IV:954]

By the way, the most concise definition of God, within Islam appears
insubstantial.

The Greek word HOMOIOS meaning 'similar or like' which is often used in
parabolic mystery formulas as being descriptive of the nature of the kingdom
of heaven [Matthew 13:24-52], implies that the same equitable
power-EXOUSIAZO as autonomy over his/her own-IDIOS body-SOMA is granted to
the individual as being unequivocally equal rights pursued as the Way with
virtue and integrity [1 Corinthians 7:2-4]. That is, the term HOMOIOS means:

i) Of the same kind; like or resembling;
(1) those who have the same position and rights;
ii) Of like disposition; the same;
(1) men of the same mind or party; of the same rank or station
(2) expression of closeness of agreement
(3) one and the same
(4) the same as usual
(5) all one to us
(6) homois antapodidonai give 'tit for tat'
(7) on equal terms, in fair fight
iii) In relation to possessions, 'belonging equally in common'
(1) accruing equally to all, general
(2) approaching all equally
iv) In geometry, 'similar' of figures'
(1) of triangles in the sense of equal
(2) of numbers (the square of a number as the product of two equal factors
v) Emphasizing the agreement by which one thing is similar or equal to
another
vi) Hebrew equivalent is Mem (#40) + Yod (#10) + Final Nun (#50 / #500) =
#100 / #550 {species as one of the same nature, form, class, kind, same;
stalk of corn; him, her, it; sexual intercourse, salaciousness; feast of
dedication of a temple / Arrow; By; Aphrodite Cythereia as the Greek Goddess
associated with the planet Venus, of eternal beauty and erotic desire who
according to legend, when taken to Olympus and presented to Zeus and the
other gods. Everyone admired her and was dazzled by her beauty. She had many
sexual relationships including Zeus (Jupiter), Ares (Mars), Poseidon, her
brothers Hermes and Dionysus and mortals such as Anchises a prince of
Dardania (near Troy), as many of those who wanted her as their own wife.

According to mythical accounts given of Greek legend, Priapus was conceived
from an illicit rape and solicitations by Zeus (or Dionysus) of Aphrodite;
but Hera as Zeus' wife in a jealous rage performed an incantation on the
still pregnant Aphrodite, rendering the infant deformed by enlarged
genitalia. Priapus was the god who presided over the fertility of vegetable
crops. He was also worshipped as the protector of sheep, goats, bees, the
vine, and of all garden produce. The god depicted here in a fresco from the
ancient Roman city of Pompeii (destroyed in 79 CE -
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/images\priapism.jpg>) is of a
dwarfish man with oversized red genitals and wearing a Phygian cap. His
statue was set-up in vegetable plots to promote garden fertility but doubled
as a 'scarecrow' to keep away birds};

Or Kaf (#20) + Mem (#40) + Vav (#6) = #66 {like = HOMOIOS; damage, loss;
babbler as spermologist [Acts 17:16-21] or seed-picker as crow [Matthew
13:3-30; Mark 4:3-29; Luke 8:5-18]; total books in the bible}
(1) [#66, #15, #76, #25 - What's behind it all?/ Imaging the Mysterious/
#72, #10]
(2) [#51, #66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government/
#73, #9]
(3) [#26, #10, #66, #5 - Natural Guidance/ The Function of Emptiness/ #54,
#28]
(4) [#22, #74, #56, #66 - Strategic Reversal/ Putting Oneself Behind/ #36,
#46]
(5) [#48, #55, #19, #49 - Sage's Constancy/ Trust in Virtue/ #66, #16]
(6) [#34, #65, #63, #33 - Achievable Goals/ The Virtue of Discrimation/ #16,
#66]

Among the Spartans and in other aristocratic and oligarchical {ie. where
power is vested in the few} societies, the term 'hoi homoioi' describes
individuals of the same rank or station. It is over the inscription upon the
altar to the 'agnostos theos' (Unknown God) to which the Apostle Paul
directs his defence against ridicule. Even though history fails to record
the decisive term 'Xenos' as 'stranger or an anonymous hero-saviour'
associated as the character central to the drama of the event on Mars Hill,
the Athenians serious intent is established by Jerome's (c. 347-420 CE) note
on the inscription: 'Diis Asiae et Europae et Africae diis ignotis et
peregrinis {ie. Of divine matters Asia, Europe and Africa are destitute,
being ignorant as foreigners or barbarians of the substance of things}'. But
above all it is God's answer to a serious question, like the no less
specifically oriented address by the Apostle Peter in [Acts 2:12-39]. The
Athenians, of course, ask in the sense of a religio eventualis {ie. true
religion is the result of action}, whereas Paul proclaims, not the one
unknown and true god of the philosophy of religion with all their illicit
sexual affairs and procreations embellished by mythology, but the very
different God, whom for the world is in fact a strange God in the ultimate
sense. [KITTEL 1995, V:8] "Let brotherly-philadelphia love-philadelphia
continue-meno. Do not forget-epilanthanomai to entertain-philonexia
strangers-philonexia, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained
angels. Remember the prisoners as if chained with them, and those who are
mistreated, since we ourselves are in the body also. Marriage is honorable
among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will
judge." [Hebrews 13:1-4]

The Apostle Paul therefore uses the term relating to knowing the 'UNKNOWN
GOD' within the context of the classical Greek poets: ".For we are also his
offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to
think that the Godhead-THEIOS is like-HOMOIOS unto gold, or silver, or
stone, graven by art and man's device." [Acts 17:28-29]  As the basis for
his observation on the cultic view of deity given to idolatry [Acts 17:16;
Acts 19:25-28], the Godhead cannot be represented by a likeness of any
object including male and female, since it is not like gold or silver or
stone or a statue graven by the device of man. [TDNT 1998 V:187-188]

When do you think your propaganda becomes psychological terrorism?

Or do you consider that the God of the Hebrews/Greeks (et al = "And how is
it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? [Acts
2:5-12]) as Jews and Christians is somehow sub-ordinated by deity made of
planetary associations--Should we not regard as an anathema Baal-Poer or
Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>

"Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Snip---------------- load of propaganda
Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
1. I should listen only to Jews
2. read only Jewishwebsites.
3. properly brainwashed christians?

And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
a untrue
b. reflects only one view.
c. I should not believe on principle.
Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
reparations to other Jews disgust?
Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support of
any self respecting God?
Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to keep
you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
grasp.
And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have on
God .

And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the present
century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
government under the christian God of understanding and charity.

A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
Christians?
http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm

And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the christian
community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.

I'm not Jewish mate, so I don't know why you are continuing that line of
argument.

I notice that you have no answers which substantiate the claim that Allah
constitutes the most concise definition of God as 'absolute existence' which
is 'like nothing', than something more [than] a linguistic conception of
hermetic mysticism as philosophy or theology of the magians--an aberration
of reality: "Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me, But
this I confess to you, that according to the Way {Gk. HODOS / Heb. DEREK (of
peace-SHALOM) [Romans 3:17]} which they call a sect [Acts 28:22], so I
worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the
Law and the Prophets. I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept,
that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the
unjust." [Acts 24:13-15]

- dolf

"Jackeroo" <jackeroo@rocknospam.com> wrote in message
news:41020952$0$16107$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Cnsider if you will your suister country
http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm
http://www.genocidewatch.org/sudansilence.htm

And your greatest fear?

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

 And the greatest actuality
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

QOLON NOTE:
I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
racialisms as ideology:

"The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of
Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

"Say: He is Allah, {Nature contains Nature}
The One and Only. {Nature rejoices in its Nature}
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. {Nature surmounts Nature}
"He begets not, nor is He begotten. {Nature amended in its Nature}
And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur'an 112:1-4] {Act of Nature 'LIKE'
= 'HOMOIOS"}

The word 'Assamad' is difficult to translate. It means 'absolute existence',
which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being
temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant on
any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him." [by
Dr. Zakir Naik, "The Most Concise Definition of God',
<http://www.theunjustmedia.com/>]

I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos /
ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

As far as attributions of Nature goes, it is the Sabbath (Saturday) by which
we may obtain our peaceful and transcendent chronological understanding of
Divine Providence as the first-ARCHE principles-STOICHEION {

ie. the elements such as the letters of the alphabet, as the rudiments,
primary and fundamental principles of any art, science, or discipline may be
considered as a paradigm, the pattern or example, a set of concepts etc.,
that are shared by a community of scholars or scientists: Telos = Arch + c�

} of the oracles-LOGION {ie. the 10 Commandments [Romans 3:1-2] of
God-THEOS" [Hebrews 5:12-14]

And this would appear to be consistent with the Natural, Regulative and
Metempirical Philosophical origin of language, it's relationship to the
theory of number and considerations as to whether a heuristic {a method of
solving problems; one for which no algorithm heretofore exists and therefore
depends on inductive (ie. some reaction within the organism) reasoning from
past experience of similar problems} exists that is attributed to a
chronological based hermeneutic as 'a priori'.  It is a nomenclature known
as the traditional Great Chain of Being, body to mind to soul to spirit or
cosmic hierarchy, which had traditionally been derived as Angels from the
anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21].

And therefore by implication the articulation of religious belief, thought
and conscience as values expression inclusive of one's self {ie. own-IDIOS
body-SOMA} which is compliant to those principles of religious liberty
espoused by the United Nations International Covenant of Civil and Political
Rights (ICCPR), but represented mathematically by a fourfold vMeme/Moment
Kabbalistic 9(9� +1)/2 = #369 Matrix {ie. HOMOIS meaning 'like, sameness'
being related to Numbers as the square 9� = 81 or the product of two equal
factors; Plato's 'ADELPHOIS NOMOIS'}, being the basis for a theological,
metaphysical philosophical and chronological retort--A 369 day chronological
and mathematical matrix known from antiquity as the Merkabah (ie.
Kabbalistic) mystical (transcendent and metaphysical) foundation for a
perennial solar/lunar [ie. 9(9� +1)/2 (#369) - 3(3� +1)/2 (#15) = 354 lunar
cycle] and organizational philosophy uniting reason and faith and mechanism
for governance as the regulative & natural philosophical principles
underpinning our Australian Constitution and legislative framework [#51,
#66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government /#9, #72].

The metaphor that the sun and the moon are sub-ordinate to a natural,
regulative and metempirical power as transcendent principle in consequence
of Providence, is that which Philo of Alexandria 20BCE-50CE as Jewish
political and theological propagandist, was "unable to trace out accurately
[concerning] the respective natures and powers of each, therefore, [is]
reduced to silence about them." {

If Philo of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 CE) is to be regarded as a political and
theological propagandist on behalf of Judaism of later antiquity, or
Josephus (37-100 CE) as an historical revisionist, the expressions which
characterize Old Testament usage the Greek word 'Hodos' or the Hebrew word
'Derek' (German for 'Ruler') as a systematic approach to governance and
claim to Christian beliefseems not to find any empathy with them. [TDNT �
1967, 1995 edition V:65]

} But nevertheless remains analogous with the Philosopher Plato's insight
that consciousness of God rests in reason, the supreme function of man's
spiritual life.  With which he contributed to the religious philosophy of
antiquity one of its most fruitful concepts: "...that reason, in virtue of
its knowledge of virtue, also controls moral action, is made clear in the
metaphor of the helmsman. As in the microcosm, man, so in the universe there
rules as king of heaven and earth (alethinos kai theios nous). In
intercourse and marriage with pure being (to auti autos) man brings forth
nous (mind) and aletheia (truth) [1 John 5:20]." [KITTEL 1995 IV:954]

By the way, the most concise definition of God, within Islam appears
insubstantial.

The Greek word HOMOIOS meaning 'similar or like' which is often used in
parabolic mystery formulas as being descriptive of the nature of the kingdom
of heaven [Matthew 13:24-52], implies that the same equitable
power-EXOUSIAZO as autonomy over his/her own-IDIOS body-SOMA is granted to
the individual as being unequivocally equal rights pursued as the Way with
virtue and integrity [1 Corinthians 7:2-4]. That is, the term HOMOIOS means:

i) Of the same kind; like or resembling;
(1) those who have the same position and rights;
ii) Of like disposition; the same;
(1) men of the same mind or party; of the same rank or station
(2) expression of closeness of agreement
(3) one and the same
(4) the same as usual
(5) all one to us
(6) homois antapodidonai give 'tit for tat'
(7) on equal terms, in fair fight
iii) In relation to possessions, 'belonging equally in common'
(1) accruing equally to all, general
(2) approaching all equally
iv) In geometry, 'similar' of figures'
(1) of triangles in the sense of equal
(2) of numbers (the square of a number as the product of two equal factors
v) Emphasizing the agreement by which one thing is similar or equal to
another
vi) Hebrew equivalent is Mem (#40) + Yod (#10) + Final Nun (#50 / #500) =
#100 / #550 {species as one of the same nature, form, class, kind, same;
stalk of corn; him, her, it; sexual intercourse, salaciousness; feast of
dedication of a temple / Arrow; By; Aphrodite Cythereia as the Greek Goddess
associated with the planet Venus, of eternal beauty and erotic desire who
according to legend, when taken to Olympus and presented to Zeus and the
other gods. Everyone admired her and was dazzled by her beauty. She had many
sexual relationships including Zeus (Jupiter), Ares (Mars), Poseidon, her
brothers Hermes and Dionysus and mortals such as Anchises a prince of
Dardania (near Troy), as many of those who wanted her as their own wife.

According to mythical accounts given of Greek legend, Priapus was conceived
from an illicit rape and solicitations by Zeus (or Dionysus) of Aphrodite;
but Hera as Zeus' wife in a jealous rage performed an incantation on the
still pregnant Aphrodite, rendering the infant deformed by enlarged
genitalia. Priapus was the god who presided over the fertility of vegetable
crops. He was also worshipped as the protector of sheep, goats, bees, the
vine, and of all garden produce. The god depicted here in a fresco from the
ancient Roman city of Pompeii (destroyed in 79 CE -
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/images\priapism.jpg>) is of a
dwarfish man with oversized red genitals and wearing a Phygian cap. His
statue was set-up in vegetable plots to promote garden fertility but doubled
as a 'scarecrow' to keep away birds};

Or Kaf (#20) + Mem (#40) + Vav (#6) = #66 {like = HOMOIOS; damage, loss;
babbler as spermologist [Acts 17:16-21] or seed-picker as crow [Matthew
13:3-30; Mark 4:3-29; Luke 8:5-18]; total books in the bible}
(1) [#66, #15, #76, #25 - What's behind it all?/ Imaging the Mysterious/
#72, #10]
(2) [#51, #66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government/
#73, #9]
(3) [#26, #10, #66, #5 - Natural Guidance/ The Function of Emptiness/ #54,
#28]
(4) [#22, #74, #56, #66 - Strategic Reversal/ Putting Oneself Behind/ #36,
#46]
(5) [#48, #55, #19, #49 - Sage's Constancy/ Trust in Virtue/ #66, #16]
(6) [#34, #65, #63, #33 - Achievable Goals/ The Virtue of Discrimation/ #16,
#66]

Among the Spartans and in other aristocratic and oligarchical {ie. where
power is vested in the few} societies, the term 'hoi homoioi' describes
individuals of the same rank or station. It is over the inscription upon the
altar to the 'agnostos theos' (Unknown God) to which the Apostle Paul
directs his defence against ridicule. Even though history fails to record
the decisive term 'Xenos' as 'stranger or an anonymous hero-saviour'
associated as the character central to the drama of the event on Mars Hill,
the Athenians serious intent is established by Jerome's (c. 347-420 CE) note
on the inscription: 'Diis Asiae et Europae et Africae diis ignotis et
peregrinis {ie. Of divine matters Asia, Europe and Africa are destitute,
being ignorant as foreigners or barbarians of the substance of things}'. But
above all it is God's answer to a serious question, like the no less
specifically oriented address by the Apostle Peter in [Acts 2:12-39]. The
Athenians, of course, ask in the sense of a religio eventualis {ie. true
religion is the result of action}, whereas Paul proclaims, not the one
unknown and true god of the philosophy of religion with all their illicit
sexual affairs and procreations embellished by mythology, but the very
different God, whom for the world is in fact a strange God in the ultimate
sense. [KITTEL 1995, V:8] "Let brotherly-philadelphia love-philadelphia
continue-meno. Do not forget-epilanthanomai to entertain-philonexia
strangers-philonexia, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained
angels. Remember the prisoners as if chained with them, and those who are
mistreated, since we ourselves are in the body also. Marriage is honorable
among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will
judge." [Hebrews 13:1-4]

The Apostle Paul therefore uses the term relating to knowing the 'UNKNOWN
GOD' within the context of the classical Greek poets: ".For we are also his
offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to
think that the Godhead-THEIOS is like-HOMOIOS unto gold, or silver, or
stone, graven by art and man's device." [Acts 17:28-29]  As the basis for
his observation on the cultic view of deity given to idolatry [Acts 17:16;
Acts 19:25-28], the Godhead cannot be represented by a likeness of any
object including male and female, since it is not like gold or silver or
stone or a statue graven by the device of man. [TDNT 1998 V:187-188]

When do you think your propaganda becomes psychological terrorism?

Or do you consider that the God of the Hebrews/Greeks (et al = "And how is
it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? [Acts
2:5-12]) as Jews and Christians is somehow sub-ordinated by deity made of
planetary associations--Should we not regard as an anathema Baal-Poer or
Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>

"Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Snip---------------- load of propaganda
Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
1. I should listen only to Jews
2. read only Jewishwebsites.
3. properly brainwashed christians?

And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
a untrue
b. reflects only one view.
c. I should not believe on principle.
Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
reparations to other Jews disgust?
Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support of
any self respecting God?
Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to keep
you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
grasp.
And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have on
God .

And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the present
century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
government under the christian God of understanding and charity.

A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
Christians?
http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm

And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the christian
community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.

A further note on your infoshop link from the Anarcharist www-page
concerning classes within society and instances of poverty: "The LORD knows
the days of the upright, and their inheritance shall be forever. They shall
not be ashamed in the evil time, and in the days of famine they shall be
satisfied.  But the wicked shall perish; And the enemies of the LORD, like
the splendor of the meadows, shall vanish.  Into smoke they shall vanish
away. The wicked borrows and does not repay, but the righteous shows mercy
and gives.
For those blessed by Him shall inherit the earth, but those cursed by Him
shall be cut off. The steps of a good man are ordered by the LORD, and He
delights in his way.  Though he fall, he shall not be utterly cast down; for
the LORD upholds him with His hand.

I have been young, and now am old; Yet I have not seen the righteous
forsaken, nor his descendants begging bread. He is ever merciful, and lends;
And his descendants are blessed.

Depart from evil, and do good; and dwell forevermore.  For the LORD loves
justice, and does not forsake His saints; They are preserved forever, but
the descendants of the wicked shall be cut off.  The righteous shall inherit
the land, and dwell in it forever.

The mouth of the righteous speaks wisdom, and his tongue talks of justice.
The law of his God is in his heart; none of his steps shall slide.  The
wicked watches the righteous, and seeks to slay him. The LORD will not leave
him in his hand, nor condemn him when he is judged.  Wait on the LORD, and
keep His way, and He shall exalt you to inherit the land; when the wicked
are cut off, you shall see it." [Psalm 37:18-34]

- dolf

"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:6foMc.13753$K53.12197@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
I'm not Jewish mate, so I don't know why you are continuing that line of
argument.

I notice that you have no answers which substantiate the claim that Allah
constitutes the most concise definition of God as 'absolute existence' which
is 'like nothing', than something more [than] a linguistic conception of
hermetic mysticism as philosophy or theology of the magians--an aberration
of reality: "Nor can they prove the things of which they now accuse me, But
this I confess to you, that according to the Way {Gk. HODOS / Heb. DEREK (of
peace-SHALOM) [Romans 3:17]} which they call a sect [Acts 28:22], so I
worship the God of my fathers, believing all things which are written in the
Law and the Prophets. I have hope in God, which they themselves also accept,
that there will be a resurrection of the dead, both of the just and the
unjust." [Acts 24:13-15]

- dolf

"Jackeroo" <jackeroo@rocknospam.com> wrote in message
news:41020952$0$16107$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au...
Cnsider if you will your suister country
http://www.lnsart.com/Sudan%20Slave%20Story.htm
http://www.genocidewatch.org/sudansilence.htm

And your greatest fear?

http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

 And the greatest actuality
http://www.infoshop.org/faq/secB7.html#secb71

QOLON NOTE:
I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
racialisms as ideology:

"The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses of
Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

"Say: He is Allah, {Nature contains Nature}
The One and Only. {Nature rejoices in its Nature}
"Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. {Nature surmounts Nature}
"He begets not, nor is He begotten. {Nature amended in its Nature}
And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur'an 112:1-4] {Act of Nature 'LIKE'
= 'HOMOIOS"}

The word 'Assamad' is difficult to translate. It means 'absolute existence',
which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being
temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant on
any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him." [by
Dr. Zakir Naik, "The Most Concise Definition of God',
<http://www.theunjustmedia.com/>]

I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos /
ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

As far as attributions of Nature goes, it is the Sabbath (Saturday) by which
we may obtain our peaceful and transcendent chronological understanding of
Divine Providence as the first-ARCHE principles-STOICHEION {

ie. the elements such as the letters of the alphabet, as the rudiments,
primary and fundamental principles of any art, science, or discipline may be
considered as a paradigm, the pattern or example, a set of concepts etc.,
that are shared by a community of scholars or scientists: Telos = Arch + c�

} of the oracles-LOGION {ie. the 10 Commandments [Romans 3:1-2] of
God-THEOS" [Hebrews 5:12-14]

And this would appear to be consistent with the Natural, Regulative and
Metempirical Philosophical origin of language, it's relationship to the
theory of number and considerations as to whether a heuristic {a method of
solving problems; one for which no algorithm heretofore exists and therefore
depends on inductive (ie. some reaction within the organism) reasoning from
past experience of similar problems} exists that is attributed to a
chronological based hermeneutic as 'a priori'.  It is a nomenclature known
as the traditional Great Chain of Being, body to mind to soul to spirit or
cosmic hierarchy, which had traditionally been derived as Angels from the
anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21].

And therefore by implication the articulation of religious belief, thought
and conscience as values expression inclusive of one's self {ie. own-IDIOS
body-SOMA} which is compliant to those principles of religious liberty
espoused by the United Nations International Covenant of Civil and Political
Rights (ICCPR), but represented mathematically by a fourfold vMeme/Moment
Kabbalistic 9(9� +1)/2 = #369 Matrix {ie. HOMOIS meaning 'like, sameness'
being related to Numbers as the square 9� = 81 or the product of two equal
factors; Plato's 'ADELPHOIS NOMOIS'}, being the basis for a theological,
metaphysical philosophical and chronological retort--A 369 day chronological
and mathematical matrix known from antiquity as the Merkabah (ie.
Kabbalistic) mystical (transcendent and metaphysical) foundation for a
perennial solar/lunar [ie. 9(9� +1)/2 (#369) - 3(3� +1)/2 (#15) = 354 lunar
cycle] and organizational philosophy uniting reason and faith and mechanism
for governance as the regulative & natural philosophical principles
underpinning our Australian Constitution and legislative framework [#51,
#66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government /#9, #72].

The metaphor that the sun and the moon are sub-ordinate to a natural,
regulative and metempirical power as transcendent principle in consequence
of Providence, is that which Philo of Alexandria 20BCE-50CE as Jewish
political and theological propagandist, was "unable to trace out accurately
[concerning] the respective natures and powers of each, therefore, [is]
reduced to silence about them." {

If Philo of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 CE) is to be regarded as a political and
theological propagandist on behalf of Judaism of later antiquity, or
Josephus (37-100 CE) as an historical revisionist, the expressions which
characterize Old Testament usage the Greek word 'Hodos' or the Hebrew word
'Derek' (German for 'Ruler') as a systematic approach to governance and
claim to Christian beliefseems not to find any empathy with them. [TDNT �
1967, 1995 edition V:65]

} But nevertheless remains analogous with the Philosopher Plato's insight
that consciousness of God rests in reason, the supreme function of man's
spiritual life.  With which he contributed to the religious philosophy of
antiquity one of its most fruitful concepts: "...that reason, in virtue of
its knowledge of virtue, also controls moral action, is made clear in the
metaphor of the helmsman. As in the microcosm, man, so in the universe there
rules as king of heaven and earth (alethinos kai theios nous). In
intercourse and marriage with pure being (to auti autos) man brings forth
nous (mind) and aletheia (truth) [1 John 5:20]." [KITTEL 1995 IV:954]

By the way, the most concise definition of God, within Islam appears
insubstantial.

The Greek word HOMOIOS meaning 'similar or like' which is often used in
parabolic mystery formulas as being descriptive of the nature of the kingdom
of heaven [Matthew 13:24-52], implies that the same equitable
power-EXOUSIAZO as autonomy over his/her own-IDIOS body-SOMA is granted to
the individual as being unequivocally equal rights pursued as the Way with
virtue and integrity [1 Corinthians 7:2-4]. That is, the term HOMOIOS means:

i) Of the same kind; like or resembling;
(1) those who have the same position and rights;
ii) Of like disposition; the same;
(1) men of the same mind or party; of the same rank or station
(2) expression of closeness of agreement
(3) one and the same
(4) the same as usual
(5) all one to us
(6) homois antapodidonai give 'tit for tat'
(7) on equal terms, in fair fight
iii) In relation to possessions, 'belonging equally in common'
(1) accruing equally to all, general
(2) approaching all equally
iv) In geometry, 'similar' of figures'
(1) of triangles in the sense of equal
(2) of numbers (the square of a number as the product of two equal factors
v) Emphasizing the agreement by which one thing is similar or equal to
another
vi) Hebrew equivalent is Mem (#40) + Yod (#10) + Final Nun (#50 / #500) =
#100 / #550 {species as one of the same nature, form, class, kind, same;
stalk of corn; him, her, it; sexual intercourse, salaciousness; feast of
dedication of a temple / Arrow; By; Aphrodite Cythereia as the Greek Goddess
associated with the planet Venus, of eternal beauty and erotic desire who
according to legend, when taken to Olympus and presented to Zeus and the
other gods. Everyone admired her and was dazzled by her beauty. She had many
sexual relationships including Zeus (Jupiter), Ares (Mars), Poseidon, her
brothers Hermes and Dionysus and mortals such as Anchises a prince of
Dardania (near Troy), as many of those who wanted her as their own wife.

According to mythical accounts given of Greek legend, Priapus was conceived
from an illicit rape and solicitations by Zeus (or Dionysus) of Aphrodite;
but Hera as Zeus' wife in a jealous rage performed an incantation on the
still pregnant Aphrodite, rendering the infant deformed by enlarged
genitalia. Priapus was the god who presided over the fertility of vegetable
crops. He was also worshipped as the protector of sheep, goats, bees, the
vine, and of all garden produce. The god depicted here in a fresco from the
ancient Roman city of Pompeii (destroyed in 79 CE -
<http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/images\priapism.jpg>) is of a
dwarfish man with oversized red genitals and wearing a Phygian cap. His
statue was set-up in vegetable plots to promote garden fertility but doubled
as a 'scarecrow' to keep away birds};

Or Kaf (#20) + Mem (#40) + Vav (#6) = #66 {like = HOMOIOS; damage, loss;
babbler as spermologist [Acts 17:16-21] or seed-picker as crow [Matthew
13:3-30; Mark 4:3-29; Luke 8:5-18]; total books in the bible}
(1) [#66, #15, #76, #25 - What's behind it all?/ Imaging the Mysterious/
#72, #10]
(2) [#51, #66, #77, #37 - Non-Deeming Action/ Administration of Government/
#73, #9]
(3) [#26, #10, #66, #5 - Natural Guidance/ The Function of Emptiness/ #54,
#28]
(4) [#22, #74, #56, #66 - Strategic Reversal/ Putting Oneself Behind/ #36,
#46]
(5) [#48, #55, #19, #49 - Sage's Constancy/ Trust in Virtue/ #66, #16]
(6) [#34, #65, #63, #33 - Achievable Goals/ The Virtue of Discrimation/ #16,
#66]

Among the Spartans and in other aristocratic and oligarchical {ie. where
power is vested in the few} societies, the term 'hoi homoioi' describes
individuals of the same rank or station. It is over the inscription upon the
altar to the 'agnostos theos' (Unknown God) to which the Apostle Paul
directs his defence against ridicule. Even though history fails to record
the decisive term 'Xenos' as 'stranger or an anonymous hero-saviour'
associated as the character central to the drama of the event on Mars Hill,
the Athenians serious intent is established by Jerome's (c. 347-420 CE) note
on the inscription: 'Diis Asiae et Europae et Africae diis ignotis et
peregrinis {ie. Of divine matters Asia, Europe and Africa are destitute,
being ignorant as foreigners or barbarians of the substance of things}'. But
above all it is God's answer to a serious question, like the no less
specifically oriented address by the Apostle Peter in [Acts 2:12-39]. The
Athenians, of course, ask in the sense of a religio eventualis {ie. true
religion is the result of action}, whereas Paul proclaims, not the one
unknown and true god of the philosophy of religion with all their illicit
sexual affairs and procreations embellished by mythology, but the very
different God, whom for the world is in fact a strange God in the ultimate
sense. [KITTEL 1995, V:8] "Let brotherly-philadelphia love-philadelphia
continue-meno. Do not forget-epilanthanomai to entertain-philonexia
strangers-philonexia, for by so doing some have unwittingly entertained
angels. Remember the prisoners as if chained with them, and those who are
mistreated, since we ourselves are in the body also. Marriage is honorable
among all, and the bed undefiled; but fornicators and adulterers God will
judge." [Hebrews 13:1-4]

The Apostle Paul therefore uses the term relating to knowing the 'UNKNOWN
GOD' within the context of the classical Greek poets: ".For we are also his
offspring. Forasmuch then as we are the offspring of God, we ought not to
think that the Godhead-THEIOS is like-HOMOIOS unto gold, or silver, or
stone, graven by art and man's device." [Acts 17:28-29]  As the basis for
his observation on the cultic view of deity given to idolatry [Acts 17:16;
Acts 19:25-28], the Godhead cannot be represented by a likeness of any
object including male and female, since it is not like gold or silver or
stone or a statue graven by the device of man. [TDNT 1998 V:187-188]

When do you think your propaganda becomes psychological terrorism?

Or do you consider that the God of the Hebrews/Greeks (et al = "And how is
it that we hear, each in our own language in which we were born? [Acts
2:5-12]) as Jews and Christians is somehow sub-ordinated by deity made of
planetary associations--Should we not regard as an anathema Baal-Poer or
Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>

"Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...

Snip---------------- load of propaganda
Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
1. I should listen only to Jews
2. read only Jewishwebsites.
3. properly brainwashed christians?

And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
a untrue
b. reflects only one view.
c. I should not believe on principle.
Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
reparations to other Jews disgust?
Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support of
any self respecting God?
Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to keep
you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
grasp.
And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have on
God .

And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the present
century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
government under the christian God of understanding and charity.

A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
Christians?
http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm

And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the christian
community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.

And


"Qolon" <telos@bigpond.com> wrote in message
news:nomMc.13619$K53.13288@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
> I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
> without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
> racialisms as ideology:
>
> "The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses
of
> Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

While you are arguing about the definition of God, you are letting God down.
IE if you believe in God?
I've told you before, he has put you here in a damn good environment?
If the environment is being stuffed while you go around so engrossed in
trying to describe God you are no good to God or yourself? Unless you feel
your mission is to clarify the description of God?

Your are in the ring called the world, and God is in your corner if you
believe in God?
So the most you now can expect from  God is He is in your corner, uses the
sponge and towel and you;'re set to go out for the next round? His
commandants and philosophy expressed in the various reliogious books just
tell you to obey the rules and not to foul intentionally?
Then he warns you of the evils you face, IE watch the right hook etc.?
Toexpect any more is to ask God to step into the ring and fight your fight
for you? And He has clearly said He will not?

>
> "Say: He is Allah, {Nature contains Nature}
> The One and Only. {Nature rejoices in its Nature}
> "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. {Nature surmounts Nature}
> "He begets not, nor is He begotten. {Nature amended in its Nature}
> And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur'an 112:1-4] {Act of Nature
'LIKE'
> = 'HOMOIOS"}
>
> The word 'Assamad' is difficult to translate. It means 'absolute
existence',
> which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being
> temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant
on
> any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him." [by
> Dr. Zakir Naik, "The Most Concise Definition of God',
> <http://www.theunjustmedia.com/>]
>
> I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
> http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
> lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos
/
> ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

Which puts you in the thoroughly barainwashed American christian or Zionist
Jew?
Other than frequently talking absolute rubbish?
I also use  New York Times which does tell the truth sometimes? To the
Guardian in England, and various Australian newspapers. See below.

I am nterested in the truth, not blatant propaganda as put out by a lot of
the western papers?


Using the uual Jewish tactic of trying to discredit any information that is
true, and not favorable to the Jewish version of events?

As with any person that wakes up to what the Jewish group is about. Of
course you could be a Jew that is not one of the controlling group which has
run the Jewish population into such disrepute, horrors in Nazi Germany, and
disfavor in most European countries because of there joice of occupation,
usually secret branches of police an the most unpleasant policing and
security positions?
While at the same time availing themselves of the opportunity to sieze land
and property, exactly the same thing that is goingon today in Nazi Israel?

No, I'm not wrpped in Muslims, but in Palestine they are attacking
Christians, torturing christians , kiling children of anyone that gets in
their way.

So the problem you have is this not only reported in Arab newspapers, but
the actions are so shocking to our democratic sensibilities that if you can
read you will have noticed that yhe sources I have chosen are everythig form
the New York Times which does tell the truth sometimes? To the Guardian in
England, and various Australian newspapers.

So whar\tever you claim to be, what you are saying is typical Jewish
propaganda to keep anyone from presenting the truth if it contradicts what
they are trying to put over?

For instance the below is the biblebelievers, but they sometimes tell the
truth  like the New York Times, who I also use as a reference?
Benjamin Franklin  - pleaded with the members of the Continental Congress to
enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration into the U. S. Constitution
to bar them for all time to come  -
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm

But these boys are also the boys from the USS Liberty: The only group that
nobbled a USN enquiry?
 - http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/-  http://www.ussliberty.org/  -
http://www.itsforums.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=558  -
http://www.mediamonitors.net/jamesjdavid17.html


Then various who find JFK  surroundings hard to believe?
JFK was catholic, would have been followed by a catholic in government and
the new democratic party which was not composed of Zionist Jew and non Jew.
So forgetting all the crap about prophecy, no doubt heavily reinforced by
Jewish interests? The only group who consistently achieves cover-ups that
the Italian mafia can only wish for the Jews and Zionists,

Main 0: -
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/israel/documents/first/   -
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/dimona.htm
http://feralnews.com/issues/jfk/piper/piper.html  -
http://www.rense.com/general24/bmb.htm
http://www.apomie.com/jfk.htm  -
 http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/1700441.php -
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid
=1090725927691
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination
http://sydney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=44159&group=webcast

http://208.39.216.125/news/2004/05/7923.php   -
http://www.biblenews1.com/docs/kennedy.htm
http://christianparty.net/kennedy.htm
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Quote/jfkq1.html


And then thers the efforts to protect Jewish criminals?
Main 1: Even the Jewish mafia is covered up? Reluctance of the FBI   - and
local and state police ". . .In general, state and Federal law enforcement
agencies were loath to go after Russian mobsters, instead devoting their
energies to bagging Italian wiseguys .  -   The Anti-Defamation League of
B'nai B'rith, pressured the police agencies to take it easy on their kinsmen
in the Jewish crime gangs, claiming that any publicity. And insist on all
Jewish mafia be described as Russian mafia? So we should start reporting on
Italian mafia to?

 http://www.theunjustmedia.com/the%20jewish%20mob%20in%20america.htm  -
Russian mafia, in American media and law enforcement  code used to describe
Jewish mafia. as might raise anti Semitic sentiments!?
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/duke_own_words/on_jews.asp
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/federal%20reserve%20new%20york%20bank%20financ
ing%20russian%20mob's%20global%20activities.htm

And just about take over the country with 3% of the population? Which nobody
would mind? Till they poke through the brainwashing enough to realise that
health, wealth, education  and employment is suffering for the other 97% of
the population?

Not being simple villagers any more they know that doctors, lawyers,
engineers are not just certain groups, or certain families? But depends on
access to education.

THAT OUR LEADERS HAVE ALLOWED THIS USURPING OF POWER IS AMAZING?
Well there was a chance with  JFK, his brother, or can Kerry fill his boots?
George hahahahahhahahahahah

Once a WASP preserve, the State Department may soon be dominated by WJMs
(white Jewish males). "Frankfurter's happy hot dogs.". recent revelations
about Madeleine Albright's Jewish roots, the new
U.S. Secretary of State faces a new conundrum: All her top candidates for a
slew of senior positions in the State Department are Jewish -- and male.
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-usa.html#anchor11844



Snip-----------------
>
The rest is just incoherent ramblings by you.

> Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

And now again the usual Jewish whine -- anti semitism , bigotry, racialism?

Criticismif true is not anti anything?

We are a christian democratic society who respects the people who come to
live with in our country views.
However I have suddenly come to notice that what we took for sensitivity has
turned out to be pure manipulation to remove all criticism from Jewish
citizens no matter how disloyal, and in fact traitorous.
You claim you are a brotherhood , and then complain because a criminal or
paedophile is Jewish and claim anti semitism when accused?
But form a group which particularly favors members of that group, and feel
you can freely vilify non Jews who point out failings in the Jewish group?

>
> - dolf
> - <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>
>
> "Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
> news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> Snip---------------- load of propaganda
> Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
> 1. I should listen only to Jews
> 2. read only Jewishwebsites.
> 3. properly brainwashed christians?
>
> And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
> a untrue
> b. reflects only one view.
> c. I should not believe on principle.
> Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
> Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
> Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
> reparations to other Jews disgust?
> Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support
of
> any self respecting God?
> Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to
keep
> you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
> grasp.
> And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
> and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have
on
> God .
>
> And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the
present
> century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
> government under the christian God of understanding and charity.
>
> A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
> HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
> Christians?
> http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm
>
> And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the
christian
> community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
> forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.
>
>
>
>

My last comment in this thread was on Sat, 24 Jul 2004 17:29:35 EST.

I think it important to point out regarding your comment, "While you are
arguing about the definition of God, you are letting God down...To expect
any more is to ask God to step into the ring and fight your fight for you?
And He has clearly said He will not?".

That the notion of ALLAH would appear to be nothing more than the "inner
Telos, the inward principle of self-realization; the motive force of the
development is kinesis {ie. the forces acting upon mechanical action} or
metabole {ie. the growth of an organism}, the activity or transition from
potency to actuality. [Meaning of 'Entelechy', Richard Muller, � 1985 by
Baker House Company, Dictionary of Latin and Greek Theological Terms Drawn
Principally from Protestant Scholastic Theology, ISBN 0-8010-2064-6]

A further comment, that notionally ALLAH is the demiurge as the animistic
aspect assigned to the Angel Metatron--As you can see below this Kabbalistic
aspect is even understood by 'The Book of Raziel' as relating to the image
{Heb: KO INR) of (Heb: ADNI} with the three signs of the name. Speak (Heb.
YHWH ADNI) is the name of the host. According to Biblical records, this was
assigned to Jesus {He is saved/A savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {one
chosen or set apart; separated; crowned; sanctified}, by isopsephy as a
Kabbalistic notion this value equates with the word Ison(omia) meaning
'equilibrium, equal distribution, balance, equality of political rights'.
And within the Aten based Egyptian occult practice which pervaded the early
20th Century as HRUMACHIS - 'The Holy Spirit of Truth and Justice'.

As Islam only perceive Jesus of Nazareth as just another prophet, of whom
Muhammed is another--They do not subscribe to him the image {Heb: KO INR) of
(Heb: ADNI} with the three signs of the name. Speak (Heb. YHWH ADNI) is the
name of the host--and thus cannot be considered, because of this idolatry,
to have any relationship within Mono-theism as Judaism and some forms of
Christianity:

"The Quran, informs us that Jesus was a human messenger of God whose sole
mission was to deliver God's message; he never possessed any power, and is
now dead (4:171 ,5:75 ,117 ).  Those who consider Jesus to be God, or Son of
God, or part of a trinity are "pagans" ( 5:17 ,72 ,73 ). [THE MYTH OF GOD
INCARNATE, John Hick, ed., The Westminster Press, Philadelphia, 1977 & THE
MYTH MAKER, Hyam Maccoby,Harper & Row 1986] [Much of Christianity is the
product of Nicene (AD 325)]

The Book of Raziel is a very rare publication {ie.

The English translation of 'Sepher Rezial Hemelach' being obtained from a
1701 CE Hebrew edition, is thought authored by Eleazar of Worms (1160-1238
CE). It used no vowels, which is distinct from linguistic development and
inclusion since the 5th-10th centuries.  It is referenced by the Sepher
Yetzirah, being along with the Sepher Bahir, the principle mystical texts to
the colleagues and disciples to Rabbi Yochanan Zakkai (47 BCE to 73 CE) as
the leader all Jewry at the time of the Jerusalem Temple destruction in 70
CE.

}, which, like the Sefer Yetzirah (cf: 1:13) purports to be a pre-Sinaitic
oral and Kabbalistic tradition concerning the mysteries and their
relationship to the origin of number.  It claims the purpose of the
anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21] as the basis for a nomenclature of Angels
{ie. the water of separation between Judaism and others [Exodus 14:21] as
similarly the sacrifice of the red heifer, was a "water of separation: it is
a purification for sin" against the state religion of the Egyptian Pharaohs
[Numbers 19:2-10]}, being an articulation of the Natural, Regulative and
Metempirical Philosophical origin of language, it's relationship to the
theory of number and considerations as an heuristic overlay attributed to a
chronological based hermeneutic as 'a priori'.

The Book of Raziel is therefore a treatise on the Torah's deployment of a
religious nomenclature known as the traditional Great Chain of Being, body
to mind to soul to spirit or cosmic hierarchy, which had traditionally been
derived as Angels from the anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21].  And it
claims that by them, one is able to:

"Prophesy the lives of the ancestors. Of Elohim (ie. the Mind of God or the
Mind of Christ [1 Corinthians 2:7-16]; for example see following URL: <
http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4 >), learn
from.  Thus far, reveal the miracles of Yahweh {ie. God}. The name of the
glory and honor is divided in 72 names coming forth from the mouth of the
high priest [Kehen Gedol].  In holiness and purity, it was received therein
in a vision. It comes forth from three scriptures.  Reveal the going forth
from the tribute. Go forth to begin on path, from beginning to end.

There are three letters in every name {ie. Where the letters Aleph (Air)
+Shin (Fire) +Mem (Water) convey its all-encompassing conception {ie.

This trinity appears to be an adaptation of Egyptian creation mythology of
Khnum/Chnum (Heb. Chiun [33 CE in Acts 7:43; c. 760 BCE in Amos 5:25-27]),
Ankhet/Anuket/Ankt and Satet/Satis, where the male principle forms a triad
with the consorts of fertility and pours forth the spiritual waters.

}}.  In each of these words is the most glorious and hidden power.  Of the
powers of the highest measure, the letters are glorious and exalted.

They are delivered from three scriptures [Exodus 14:19-21] of glorious power
in the sublime and hidden secret.  By them, reveal the wisdom and
enlightenment of every sublime and hidden secret.  It is the secret of
heaven and earth.  And is the highest secret of the letters.

They are divided in three groups of 24 names, revealing the glory of 10
divisions, seven in every division.  They indicate every secret going forth
of the highest matters. The secret of the angel of Elohim as the secret to
cover with glory.  The secret power of the water and the sea. The secret to
extend the hand of Moses over them.  The secret of the host of Egypt and the
host of Israel.  Of light and darkness, day and night.  The secret of the
ancient spirit [Ruoch Qediem].

The highest and most glorious words indicate the power.  Of the secret of
the ten sefirot (Number), reveal the sublime secret and glory.  Reveal the
divisions of the profound secrets in places.  Reveal the angel of Elohim
{ie. Metatron regarded as the demiurge or supernatural animating agent
within the universe}, of the most glorious and highest powers.  Of Jochin
{counsel} and Boaz {stength} around the victory and splendor of ancient
Israel." [� 2000 Steve Savedow, The Sepher Rezial: The Book of the Angel
Raziel, p 144-146]

The usage of the Greek term 'arsenokoites' {ie. men who act against
principles of covenant compared to 'arsenogenes' as men who act against
principles or mores of race} and therefore by imputation, the term 'malakos'
{ie. as pretension in the greatest degree} are assigned to the prophecy
concerning the Angel Metatron as soul of the Messiah, as the Lord of
Sabaoth, Lord of Hosts, Forces & Authority over Chaos, Memra, Word,
Shekinah, Holy Spirit, by Acts of Divine Providence within Jewish
Kabbalistic thought or Pistis-Sophia within Jewish-Greek Gnosticism.  Being
further assigned to the Angel Michael as a name derived by Themurah {ie.

Which as a Kabbalistic technique consisting of transposing the letters of a
word, or replacing them with artificial equivalents obtained from one or
another of a group of anagrams; cf: Scholem, Major Trends p 100

} from the term Angel given in [Exodus 23:21; 23] as:

 Mem (#40) + Lamed (#30) + Aleph (#1) + Final Kaf (#500) = #571 % 81 [#4]

[#4, #29, #2, #72 - Self-Love/ Holding Oneself Dear]
[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture]
[#64, #1, #4, #24 - Important Distinctions/ Trouble from Indulgence]
[#72, #63, #75, #4 - Using Guidance/ Sourceless such as Gematria]
[#74, #13, #70, #80 - Primitivist Independence/ Remaining in Isolation/ #4,
#78]
[#8, #4, #12, #2 - Contrast of Terms/ Self-Culture/ #78, #4]

And this appears to be consequently interconnected to the theological notion
of the Angel Metatron to which the anagrammation of [Exodus 14:19-21] is
also associated: "Of the palace of Metatron, the name comes from the
Nepheshoth, the most righteous of the universe. Of the profound secret,
Metatron is all the actions and power of Shaddai, of all the one power."
[Raziel p 196] Within Jewish mysticism, the Arch-Angel Metatron is the
demiurge who was important only because his name is mathematically
equivalent of Shaddai, one of God's name and is regarded as companion to the
Angel Sandolfon {co-brother} who, being 'taller than his comrades by a
distance of 500 years' has a significance as the left-handed cherubim of the
ark of the covenant, in having an intimate attendance upon God himself.

Curiously the Angel / Daemon known as Mitzrael (Mizreal) 40, 90, 200 = #330
which is derived from the anagrammation of the Torah text of [Exodus
14:19-21], has historically been understood by this ancient literature, 'The
Book of Raziel' as relating to the image {Heb: KO INR) of (Heb: ADNI} with
the three signs of the name. Speak (Heb. YHWH ADNI) is the name of the host.
According to Biblical records, this was assigned to Jesus {He is saved/A
savior; a deliverer} of Nazareth {one chosen or set apart; separated;
crowned; sanctified}, by isopsephy as a Kabbalistic notion this value
equates with the word Ison(omia) meaning 'equilibrium, equal distribution,
balance, equality of political rights'. And within the Aten based Egyptian
occult practice which pervaded the early 20th Century as HRUMACHIS - 'The
Holy Spirit of Truth and Justice':

"I receive not honor from men. But I know you, that ye have not the love of
God in you. I am come in my Father's name, and ye receive me not: if another
shall come in his own name, him ye will receive. How can ye believe, which
receive honor one of another, and seek not the honor that cometh from God
only? Do not think that I will accuse you to the Father: there is one that
accuses you, even Moses, in whom ye trust. For had ye believed Moses, ye
would have believed me: for he wrote of me. But if ye believe not his
writings, how shall ye believe my words?" [John 5:41-47]

As the initials above the Cross deploying a further Kabbalistic technique
known as notarikon, {ie. As the abbreviated composition of a word from the
beginning or end of several words} records his alleged crime as the
infringement of religious and political sensitivities being: INR = IESVS
NAZARENVS REX IVDAEORVM. {Jesus Nazareth King of the Jews} [Matthew 27:37;
Mark 15:26; John 19:19; Luke 23:38] as symbolic philosophical / theological
assumptions made by Latin-Rhomaikos, Greek-Hellenikos, Hebrew-Hebraikos; cf:
[Luke 23:38; John 19:20] inferences as MALAKOS {ie. as pretension in the
greatest or first-degree}.

It is said that the Torah text [Exodus 23:20-22] specifically refers to the
Arch-Angel Metatron: "Behold, I send an angel of mercy before you to guard
you in the land, to bring you into the place which I have prepared.  Pay
attention before him and listen to (his) voice, and do not rebel against his
words, for my holy name in invoked upon him, for he will not forgive or
pardon your sins, for my holy name is invoked upon him.  But if you listen
to the voice of my Memra and do all that it says, I will hate whoever hates
you, and I will oppress whoever oppresses you." [� 1994 The Order of Saint
Benedict Aramaic Targum of Neofiti 1: Exodus 23:20-22]

Whilst the designation was also applied to John {Grace or mercy of the Lord}
the Baptist as the Dead Sea Scroll's Teacher of Righteousness, it is thought
to apply to the son of man in the Last Days [Matthew 25:31-46]:

"And his father Zacharias {memory of the Lord} was filled with the Holy
Ghost, and prophesied, saying, Blessed be the Lord God of Israel; for he
hath visited and redeemed his people, And hath raised up an horn of
salvation for us in the house of his servant David {well beloved; dear}; As
he spoke by the mouth of his holy prophets, which have been since the world
began: That we should be saved from our enemies, and from the hand of all
that hate us; To perform the mercy promised to our fathers, and to remember
his holy covenant; The oath which he swore to our father Abraham {father of
a multitude}, that he would grant unto us, that we being delivered out of
the hand of our enemies might serve him without fear, In holiness and
righteousness before him, all the days of our life. And thou, child, shall
be called the prophet of the Highest: for thou shall go before the face of
the Lord to prepare his ways-HODOS; To give knowledge of salvation unto his
people by the remission of their sins, Through the tender mercy of our God;
whereby the dayspring from on high hath visited us, To give light to them
that sit in darkness and in the shadow of death, to guide our feet into the
way-HODOS of peace-EIRENE. And the child grew, and waxed strong in spirit,
and was in the deserts till the day of his showing unto Israel." [Luke
1:67-80]

And it is upon this central theological notion, as claimed Christian belief
which is inevitably barren of soul, having no justification and simply
engaging in pretension as presumption of piety, that the term 'MALAKOS' is
referenced, but elsewhere in [1 Corinthians 6:9], erroneously translated as
Homosexual rather than the present day ecclesiastical authorities as then
being the Sadducees {White Washers and Men of Mockery} and Pharisees
{Flattery Seekers} aligned with King Herod the Great (37-4 (1) BCE) to King
Agrippa II (c. 27-(50-93 CE) as sub-ordination to the Roman Caesars from
Augustus (44 BCE-14 CE), Tiberius (15 CE) to Vitellius (69 CE) as Roman
State Religion:

"What did you go out into the wilderness to look at? A reed-kalamos
shaken-saleuo by the wind-anemos? But what did you go out to see? A man
clothed in soft-MALAKOS {

'No one-and I mean no one-denied most of the major aspects of Judaism for
many centuries after the Sinaitic event. The first record we have of formal
schisms within Judaism is close to the period of the Mishna (such as the
Sadducees), roughly 1000 years later! (See our class on 1:3
<http://www.torah.org/learning/pirkei-avos/chapter1-3.html>) Even then, the
doubters denied only the Oral Law-the explanation and elaboration of the
Scripture as handed down orally by Moses. For no one at that time could have
ever gotten away with the claim that the Written Torah was not authentic.
Such a claim would have been regarded as patently absurd; it would have been
laughed off the stage of history. We all knew there was a Torah.' [Courtesy:
� 2004 Rabbi Dovid Rosenfeld Pirkei Avos on Does God Exist? Chapter 3 Mishna
10 (a), Project Genesis <http://www.torah.org>]

} garments-himation? Indeed those who are gorgeously appareled and live in
luxury-truphe are in the kings' courts. But what did you go out to see? A
prophet? Yes, I say to you, and more than a prophet. This is he of whom it
is written: 'Behold, I send my messenger before your face, who will prepare
your way before you.' [Exodus 23:20-22]  For I say to you, among those born
of women there is not a greater prophet than John the Baptist; but he who is
least in the kingdom of God is greater than he." [Luke 7:24-28]

It is therefore representative as the Christian Gospel and the
'rulers-kosmokrater of the obscurity-skotos of this age-aion' who engage in
'spiritual-pneumatikos wickedness-porneia', [Ephesians 6:12] in that they
commit spiritual adultery-being the elevation of carnal marriage and
procreation {ie. HETEROS} to being a spiritual verity and equitable to a
spiritual marriage as the individual's integrity of soul as autonomous
{autos / one's true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} participation within the
Everlasting Covenant experience as claim to religious belief, thought and
conscience which is free from impugnity and coercion.  Namely, that they
fraudulently lay claim to the Spirit of God thereby "compeling her to live
with them and render service to them upon their bed {ie. 'arsenokoites' as
men who act against principles of covenant as 'arsenogenes' equates with men
who act against principles or mores of race}, as if they were her masters."
[The Nag Hammadi Library, � 1988 E. J. Brill, Leiden, The Netherlands, The
Exegesis of the Soul]

That the 'rulers-kosmokrater of the obscurity-skotos of this age-aion'
engaging in 'spiritual-pneumatikos wickedness-porneia' relates to an
abstruse consideration that the #369 vMeme/Moment paradigm is considered to
be a homoiotic noumenon which in Kantian (1724-1804 CE) philosophy, is that
which can be the object only of a purely intellectual (non-sensuous)
intuition; and is essentially a postulate on the origins of the English
(Australian)  language as encyclical architecture/legislative framework of
governance, it presents a claim to higher authority regarding precedence and
prerogative, to any claim to the English language derived from symbolic
philosophical / theological assumptions made by Latin-Rhomaikos,
Greek-Hellenikos, Hebrew-Hebraikos; cf: [Luke 23:38; John 19:20] as MALAKOS
{ie. as pretension in the greatest or first-degree}.

As the homoiotic noumenon, is a trans-experiential object onto which time
stamped phenomenon is referred, as to the basis or cause of its sense
content. It is a heuristic  {ie. a method of solving problems and for one,
which no algorithm exists, and which therefore depends on inductive
reasoning from past experience of similar problems} attributed to a
chronological (24 hr day / topical year) hermeneutical overlay as 'a
priori'.  And it may be considered in and of itself a jurisprudent
determination as to the integrity of statements and whether, as the measure
of their categorical nature, are compliant with the natural, regulative and
metempirical principles of our legislation as jurisprudent framework and
accordingly our human, religious and Australian Constitutional rights.

This is clearly demonstrated by the Kabbalistic notion that
'principalities-arche and powers-exousia' [Colossians 2:15] also relates to
First Principles or First Cuase: "For though by this time you ought to be
teachers, you need someone to teach you again the first-ARCHE
principles-STOICHEION {ie. the elements such as the letters of the alphabet:
The letters of the alphabet, primary body, element, 'shadow', the more
important denotation of the term stoicheion was 'a member of a row'. The
earliest attested use of the term stoicheion is in Plato Theaet. 201e, where
it is obvious that Plato still feels the original connotation of 'letter of
the alphabet'. Aristotle uses the term to refer to the basic ingredient of a
composite (Meta. 1014a), or perhaps primary unit indivisible into kinds
different from itself. That means that the term is basically a 'formal' term
that takes on its specific meaning from the 'thing' of which it is primary
component. Thus in the early literature stoicheia specifically means such
things as letters or phonemes that make up syllables, notes on a musical
scale, the components of physical bodies, the elementary principles or rules
of politics, etc. It was frequently used by philosophers in the phrase, ta
stoicheia tou kosmou, to refer to those primary components from which the
world was made, namely, earth, water, air, and fire; but that was only one
of its many specific meanings. By the time of the atomists, stoicheion
compares the basic bodies of the physical world to the letters of the
alphabet which have no significance of their own, but by manipulating their
order (taxis) and position (thesis) one can construct them into aggregates
with different meanings (Aristotle, Meta. 985b; De gen. Et corr. I, 315b).
Thus stoicheion is a 'formal' word which means 'primary inherent component,'
and which takes on its specific meaning from the universe of discourse from
which it is taken. In that regard it is similar to the English word 'element
'. [Courtesy: Ian Dengler, [Basics of ] Stoicheion, a predecessor term to
ideometry and the philosophy of taxon, 25 May 2001]

As the rudiments, primary and fundamental principles of any art, science, or
discipline may be considered as a paradigm, the pattern or example, a set of
concepts etc., that are shared by a community of scholars or scientists:
Telos = Arch + c�} of the oracles-LOGION {ie. the 10 Commandments [Romans
3:1-2]} of God-THEOS" [Hebrews 5:12-14]

To grasp the metaphysical intention of such a mathematical/philosophical
paradigm associated with usage of Bayesian Theory originally formulated by
Thomas Bayes (c. 1702-1761 CE), a British mathematician and Presbyterian
minister, it is prudent to consider his other two works published within his
lifetime, namely: "Divine Benevolence, or an Attempt to Prove that the
Principal End of the Divine Providence and Government is the Happiness of
His Creatures (1731 CE)", and "An Introduction to the Doctrine of Fluxions
{ie. the derivative relative to the time,  as the rate of change of a
varying quantity}, and a Defence of the Mathematicians Against the
Objections of the Author of the Analyst, in which he defended Isaac  Newton'
s foundations of calculus (1736 CE)".

Jose Bernardo & Adrian Smith treatise on 'Bayesian Theory' [ISBN
0-471-92416-4] describes Bayesian Statistics as offering a rationalistic
theory of personalistics and beliefs in contexts of uncertainty, with the
central aim of characterizing how an individual should act in order to
achieve certain kinds of desirable behavioral outcome. The theory
establishes that expected utility maximization as axiomatic or intuitive
approaches to quantifying uncertainty, assisted by the usage of a homoiotic
noumenon, provides the basis for rational decision making.

The vMeme/Moment Mathematical/Chronological Kabbalistic paradigm may
therefore be defined as a virtual universe or lens by which events are
viewed as occurring within a definite time space. Where the probability P of
some event E (denoted P(E)) is defined with respect to a "universe" {ie. an
implied chronological  universe: Telos (122J3W1D as 6,000) = Arch (0) + c�
or the universe of discourse} in the case where the sample space is finite
or countably infinite, a probability  function can also be defined by its
values on the elementary events {e1}, {e2},...  where S = {e1, e2, ...} as a
sample space S of all possible elementary events {ie.  hemi-sphere sampled
chronological universe of action: 3(3�+1)/2 (15 days) ... 9(9�+1/2 = (369
days)} in such a way that P must satisfy any probability  axioms as rules of
coherence and quantification (viz. Jose Bernardo & Adrian  Smith), any
implied epistemological hermeneutic usage given by language and number as
the Kabbalistic empirical-inductive and meta-physical deductive paradigm, in
addition to the Kolmogorov probability axioms:

AXIOM #1: 0 <= P(E) <= 1
AXIOM #2: P(S) = 1
AXIOM #3: SUM P(Ei) = P(E1  U E2 U...)

The inner Telos may be considered analogous to the Karmic view of the cosmic
operation of retributive justice and the process of inevitable consequence,
or fate referred to by the Greeks as the 'entelechy' or the 'soul' as
animating principle within the universal religious 'concept of the unending
cycle of life', known as the way {ie.

Gk. HODOS; Heb. DEREK

The Christian faith may be pragmatically understood by the Greek term Hodos
& Hebrew term Derek meaning 'The Way':-- 

I.  Of place, way, road

a)  with Preposition: pro hodou - further on the way, forward

II.  As an action, traveling, journeying, whether by land or water, journey,
voyage; departure or military march
III.  Metaphorical or figurative: way, means or manner of doing something:
thespesia ho - the way or course of divination; hodos can embrace present
and future destiny, however hodos bios - is understood to mean the 'form of
life' rather than the 'path of life or destiny'

a) A way of doing, speaking, etc; adikos hodos lesai: the 'conduct' or
'measure' rather than the 'way of life'.  In the philosophical sense is the
'way of enquiry, knowledge or method'

b) Method, system; hod�i or kai hodos: methodically, systematically as the
ways of all kinds

c) Of the Christian faith, doctrine, teachings and its followers;

d) The undertaking or making of ethical decisions according to right
thinking; it denotes a man's religious attitude or development;

e) The will and ways of God concerning his providential dealings, purpose
and acts:  Hodos kurios - the walk commanded by God;

f) The Covenant as Decalogue being the commandments or laws accepted among
the Gentiles

g) If Philo of Alexandria (20 BCE-50 CE) is to be regarded as a political
and theological propagandist on behalf of Judaism of later antiquity, or
Josephus (37-100 CE) as an historical revisionist, the expressions which
characterize the Old Testament usage of Derek /Hodos seems not to find any
empathy. [TDNT � 1967, 1995 ed, V:65]

IV The two (light/darkness or broad gate = Mysticism/narrow gate = Torah)
ways of human life or the tree of life as depicted in [Matthew 7:13] and by
Pythagorean (c. 580-500 BCE) usage of the letter 'Y' Upsilon [#4, #29, #2,
#72 - Self-Love / Holding Oneself Dear / #60, #22] where the lower stroke
represents the unbroken childhood sheltered by parents and teachers, the
left: vice and the right: virtue.

And in this metaphysical and philosophical sense is equivalent to the:

a) Systemic mechanism of ancient Roman governance: 'Felix {happy,
prosperous} as the governor of Caesarea is depicted as having a more
accurate knowledge of the Way-HODOS.' [Acts 24:22]
b) Chinese Philosopher Lao Tzu's (c. 604 BCE) Tao (the way) Te (of virtue)
Ching (and causality)

c) Wisdom literature of the Japanese samurai Musashi 1645 CE.

}. Which is the systematic means or manner of doing something: The
undertaking or making of ethical decisions according to right thinking; it
denotes a man's religious attitude or development; A way of doing, speaking,
etc; adikos hodos lesai: the 'conduct' or 'measure' rather than the 'way of
life'.  In the philosophical sense is the 'way of enquiry, knowledge or
method'; 'thespesia ho' - the way or course of divination; 'hodos' can
embrace present and future destiny, however 'hodos bios' is understood to
mean the 'form of life ' rather than the 'path of life or destiny' as that
which is related to the cosmic hierarchy of Mind to Body to Soul to Spirit.

"An integral model-namely, all-quadrant, all-level (ie. known as the Wilber
model as deployed within the Spiral Dynamics Architecture)-that attempts to
provide a framework in which all of those 'facts', if you will, can be
accommodated.  The facts, that is, of both interior realities and exterior
realities, 'spiritual' experiences and 'scientific' experiences, subjective
realities and objective realities.  It finds ample room for the traditional
Great Chain of Being and Knowing-from matter to body to soul to spirit-but
it plugs those realities into empirical facts in a definite and specifiable
fashion." [� 2000 Ken Wilber, 'A Theory of Everything - An Integral Vision
for Business, Politics, Science & Spirituality', Shamhala Publications,
Boston p 66-73]

The inner Telos is that which accounts for form in Aristotelian psychology
is held by the scholastics, as the soul. In the basic philosophical sense of
inner telos, or guiding form, the 'entelecheia' is that which mediates
between matter (ie. the mind) {Nature contains Nature} and form (ie. the
Body) {Nature rejoices in its Nature}, potency (ie. the Soul) {Nature
surmounts Nature} and actuality (ie. the Spirit) {Nature amended in its
Nature}. The matter (ie.  Mind) or substance of a thing, as such, conveys
the essence of the thing ('essentia'; 'ousia') as only potentiality (ie. the
Soul), whereas the form (ie. Body), as considered in itself as actuality
(ie. Spirit), requires embodiment. The actualization (ie. Spirit) of the
thing, the union of matter (ie. Mind) and form in development and
occurrence, the movement from potency to act, rests upon the inner Telos,
the inward principle of self-realization; the motive force of the
development is kinesis {ie. the forces acting upon mechanical action} or
metabole {ie. the growth of an organism}, the activity or transition from
potency to actuality. [Meaning of 'Entelechy', Richard Muller, � 1985 by
Baker House Company, Dictionary of Latin and Greek Theological Terms Drawn
Principally from Protestant Scholastic Theology, ISBN 0-8010-2064-6]

"Rabbi Chanina ben (son of) Tradyon said, if two people sit together and  do
not share words of Torah between them, it is a company of scorners, as the
verse states, 'In the company of scorners he [the righteous man] did not
sit [rather in G-d's Torah was his desire...]' (Psalms 1:1-2). But if two
people sit and share words of Torah between them the Divine Presence rests
between them, as the verse states, 'Then spoke those who fear G-d one to
another, and G-d listened and heard, and it was written in a book of
remembrance before Him, for those who fear G-d and regard His Name'
(Malachi 3:16). From here we learn only about two. How do we know that  even
one who sits and studies Torah that the Holy One, blessed be He,  allocates
him a reward? [It is] as the verse states, 'He will sit alone  and be silent
(studying to himself), for it [a reward] will be placed upon  him'
(Lamentations 3:28)."

Our mishna draws up a powerful contrast - between two people who share
words of Torah and two who do not. One pair merits the Divine Presence,
while the other is a company of scorners ("leitzim" in Hebrew; we'll use
the Hebrew term below). "Leitz" is a very strong term in the language of
both Scriptures and the Sages. Literally translated, it means something
like a joker, but the connotation is far more negative. (In modern Hebrew a
"leitzan" is a clown.) It implies someone who laughs but does not laugh in
humor but in derision. He scoffs; he laughs because he does not want to
take life seriously. He ridicules serious issues. He laughs off criticism
and cannot be held down to serious discussion about life and religion. His
humor is inappropriate; he uses it as a protective shield against taking
life seriously. The Talmud lists four classes of people who will  not
"receive the Divine Presence" (Sotah 42a). The first one listed is the
class of leitzim. If you don't want to think about G-d and your
responsibilities towards Him, chances are He will want to have nothing to
do with you as well. [� 2004 Rabbi Dovid Rosenfeld, Laughing in the Face of
Reality Chapter 3, Mishna 3 <http://www.torah.org>]

"We need further understanding in the statement that "Two have their words
recorded in a book.". "Chomer" (we have translated this as "raw material")
is the primary level of each thing in the world. It embodies the potential
of that thing, but not the actualization of its potential. It requires
"tzurah" (form or content which has been imposed on the raw material) which
is the next level of reality, for the item to be actualized in the world
and be differentiated from all other things. But the "tzurah" is not
variable nor is it changeable. It is the "chomer" which is the source of
any change or transformation in an object. (We have discussed the concepts
of "chomer" and "tzurah" used in the Maharal, and will illustrate it again
with the example we have used in the past. In a table, wood is  the
 "chomer," the raw material out of which the table is fashioned.  The
"tzurah" the form or concept which has been imposed on the wood  is "table."
The fact that this specific table can change, can be enhanced  or can
deteriorate, is a function of the "chomer," of the matter from  which the
table has been fashioned. It is not a function of its "tzurah,"  of the
concept "table," which, as a concept,  is unchanging.) " [Rabbi Shaya
Karlinsky 0952 hrs [#27, #24, #24 *, #55 - Abstruse Signs/ The Signet of the
Mysterious, (#35, #47)] August 16, 2004 [#20, #50, #64, #53 - Increasing
Evidence/ Gaining Insight, (#34, #48)]

I ought to clarify, that the 'Chomer' as raw material or matter {nature
contains nature} is the primary level or the 'mind' of a thing in the world
which it embodies as the potential or 'soul' {nature surmounts nature} of
that thing, but not the actualization or 'spirit' {nature amended in its
nature} of its potential.  It requires 'tzurah' or 'body' (form or content
which has been imposed on the raw material) as {nature rejoices in its
nature}.

Thus the 'Torah' operates in the same way as being the 'form' or Homoiotic
noumenon that is the heavenly tablets, the secret of the way things are and
the way or path of righteousness known as Derek (Heb.) or Hodos (Gk.) as the
transexperiential object of a purely intellectual (non-sensuous) intuition
by which a thing reaches its actualization.

The inner Telos {

ie. as the Homoiotic noumenon and as the view of the Decade as Oracles
[Romans 3:1-2] conveyed by the Book of Time Divisions according to Jubilees
as Weeks to which an genealogical overlay is applied and surviving extant
and with fragments surviving amongst the Dead Sea Scroll Community as
lawfully a Sectarian Jewish Association

} When there are two people studying Torah, that study reaches beyond the
primary level (attained by one) to reach the second level, that  of
"tzurah." Through "tzurah" an object is actualized and clarified.
Furthermore,  "tzurah" is the enduring dimension of an object. This is  what
is meant by having the words written in a book of remembrance, which  has
permanence and endurance.

But only when there are two people (studying together) can the level of
"tzurah" be reached, actualizing and giving endurance. When there is only
one, remaining at the level of "chomer," it lacks clarity and it lacks
permanence. [Therefore, his words are not written in the book.]

This explanation is clear to anyone who has a true understanding of the
words of the Rabbis, which were said from a perspective of Divine wisdom.
(As we have explained in the past, the Maharal uses this phrase to indicate
an elevated, Kabbalistic concept which he has presented, and which isn't as
easily understood as it might appear to be.)

Therefore, were taught above (Mishna 3) that two people who are sitting
together, with no words of Torah are exchanged between them, are considered
to be in a session of scoffers. When two people are together, it is most
appropriate that words of Torah be between them, for they represent the
level of "tzurah."  This is contrast to one person, who by himself is at
the level of "chomer," which is not the level so intimately associated with
words of Torah.  So when two people are sitting together, a situation where
words of Torah are most appropriate, and that Torah is not exchanged
between them, it is considered a session of scoffers. [Courtesy: Text
Copyright � 2004 by http://www.torah.org The class is taught by Rabbi Shaya
Karlinsky , Dean of Darche Noam Institutions , YeshivatDarche Noam/Shapell's
and Midreshet Rachel for Women.]

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> I've amplified my post because you are engaging in unjustified censure,
> without being able to provide substantiation by way of proof of your
> racialisms as ideology:
>
> "The most concise definition of God in Islam is given in the four verses
of
> Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Qur'an:

While you are arguing about the definition of God, you are letting God down.
IE if you believe in God?
I've told you before, he has put you here in a damn good environment?
If the environment is being stuffed while you go around so engrossed in
trying to describe God you are no good to God or yourself? Unless you feel
your mission is to clarify the description of God?

Your are in the ring called the world, and God is in your corner if you
believe in God?
So the most you now can expect from  God is He is in your corner, uses the
sponge and towel and you;'re set to go out for the next round? His
commandants and philosophy expressed in the various reliogious books just
tell you to obey the rules and not to foul intentionally?
Then he warns you of the evils you face, IE watch the right hook etc.?
Toexpect any more is to ask God to step into the ring and fight your fight
for you? And He has clearly said He will not?

>
> "Say: He is Allah, {Nature contains Nature}
> The One and Only. {Nature rejoices in its Nature}
> "Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. {Nature surmounts Nature}
> "He begets not, nor is He begotten. {Nature amended in its Nature}
> And there is none like unto Him." [Al-Qur'an 112:1-4] {Act of Nature
'LIKE'
> = 'HOMOIOS"}
>
> The word 'Assamad' is difficult to translate. It means 'absolute
existence',
> which can be attributed only to Allah (swt), all other existence being
> temporal or conditional. It also means that Allah (swt) is not dependant
on
> any person or thing, but all persons and things are dependant on Him." [by
> Dr. Zakir Naik, "The Most Concise Definition of God',
> <http://www.theunjustmedia.com/>]
>
> I note from your other posts that you frequently quote the www-link
> http://www.theunjustmedia.com/ which demonstrates that your political
> lobbying is Muslim based rhetoric, anti-democratic, non-autonomous {autos
/
> ones true self, the soul + nomos / Torah} and annihilationist.

Which puts you in the thoroughly barainwashed American christian or Zionist
Jew?
Other than frequently talking absolute rubbish?
I also use  New York Times which does tell the truth sometimes? To the
Guardian in England, and various Australian newspapers. See below.

I am nterested in the truth, not blatant propaganda as put out by a lot of
the western papers?


Using the uual Jewish tactic of trying to discredit any information that is
true, and not favorable to the Jewish version of events?

As with any person that wakes up to what the Jewish group is about. Of
course you could be a Jew that is not one of the controlling group which has
run the Jewish population into such disrepute, horrors in Nazi Germany, and
disfavor in most European countries because of there joice of occupation,
usually secret branches of police an the most unpleasant policing and
security positions?
While at the same time availing themselves of the opportunity to sieze land
and property, exactly the same thing that is goingon today in Nazi Israel?

No, I'm not wrpped in Muslims, but in Palestine they are attacking
Christians, torturing christians , kiling children of anyone that gets in
their way.

So the problem you have is this not only reported in Arab newspapers, but
the actions are so shocking to our democratic sensibilities that if you can
read you will have noticed that yhe sources I have chosen are everythig form
the New York Times which does tell the truth sometimes? To the Guardian in
England, and various Australian newspapers.

So whar\tever you claim to be, what you are saying is typical Jewish
propaganda to keep anyone from presenting the truth if it contradicts what
they are trying to put over?

For instance the below is the biblebelievers, but they sometimes tell the
truth  like the New York Times, who I also use as a reference?
Benjamin Franklin  - pleaded with the members of the Continental Congress to
enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration into the U. S. Constitution
to bar them for all time to come  -
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm

But these boys are also the boys from the USS Liberty: The only group that
nobbled a USN enquiry?
 - http://home.cfl.rr.com/gidusko/liberty/-  http://www.ussliberty.org/  -
http://www.itsforums.co.uk/zone0/viewtopic.php?t=558  -
http://www.mediamonitors.net/jamesjdavid17.html


Then various who find JFK  surroundings hard to believe?
JFK was catholic, would have been followed by a catholic in government and
the new democratic party which was not composed of Zionist Jew and non Jew.
So forgetting all the crap about prophecy, no doubt heavily reinforced by
Jewish interests? The only group who consistently achieves cover-ups that
the Italian mafia can only wish for the Jews and Zionists,

Main 0: -
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/israel/documents/first/   -
http://www.jfkmontreal.com/dimona.htm
http://feralnews.com/issues/jfk/piper/piper.html  -
http://www.rense.com/general24/bmb.htm
http://www.apomie.com/jfk.htm  -
 http://sf.indymedia.org/news/2004/07/1700441.php -
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid
=1090725927691
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_F._Kennedy_assassination
http://sydney.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=44159&group=webcast

http://208.39.216.125/news/2004/05/7923.php   -
http://www.biblenews1.com/docs/kennedy.htm
http://christianparty.net/kennedy.htm
http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Quote/jfkq1.html


And then thers the efforts to protect Jewish criminals?
Main 1: Even the Jewish mafia is covered up? Reluctance of the FBI   - and
local and state police ". . .In general, state and Federal law enforcement
agencies were loath to go after Russian mobsters, instead devoting their
energies to bagging Italian wiseguys .  -   The Anti-Defamation League of
B'nai B'rith, pressured the police agencies to take it easy on their kinsmen
in the Jewish crime gangs, claiming that any publicity. And insist on all
Jewish mafia be described as Russian mafia? So we should start reporting on
Italian mafia to?

 http://www.theunjustmedia.com/the%20jewish%20mob%20in%20america.htm  -
Russian mafia, in American media and law enforcement  code used to describe
Jewish mafia. as might raise anti Semitic sentiments!?
http://www.adl.org/special_reports/duke_own_words/on_jews.asp
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/jew%20organized%20crime.htm
http://www.theunjustmedia.com/federal%20reserve%20new%20york%20bank%20financ
ing%20russian%20mob's%20global%20activities.htm

And just about take over the country with 3% of the population? Which nobody
would mind? Till they poke through the brainwashing enough to realise that
health, wealth, education  and employment is suffering for the other 97% of
the population?

Not being simple villagers any more they know that doctors, lawyers,
engineers are not just certain groups, or certain families? But depends on
access to education.

THAT OUR LEADERS HAVE ALLOWED THIS USURPING OF POWER IS AMAZING?
Well there was a chance with  JFK, his brother, or can Kerry fill his boots?
George hahahahahhahahahahah

Once a WASP preserve, the State Department may soon be dominated by WJMs
(white Jewish males). "Frankfurter's happy hot dogs.". recent revelations
about Madeleine Albright's Jewish roots, the new
U.S. Secretary of State faces a new conundrum: All her top candidates for a
slew of senior positions in the State Department are Jewish -- and male.
http://www.jewwatch.com/jew-occupiedgovernments-usa.html#anchor11844



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>
The rest is just incoherent ramblings by you.

> Priapism worship which gives rise to forms of racialism you espouse?

And now again the usual Jewish whine -- anti semitism , bigotry, racialism?

Criticismif true is not anti anything?

We are a christian democratic society who respects the people who come to
live with in our country views.
However I have suddenly come to notice that what we took for sensitivity has
turned out to be pure manipulation to remove all criticism from Jewish
citizens no matter how disloyal, and in fact traitorous.
You claim you are a brotherhood , and then complain because a criminal or
paedophile is Jewish and claim anti semitism when accused?
But form a group which particularly favors members of that group, and feel
you can freely vilify non Jews who point out failings in the Jewish group?

>
> - dolf
> - <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>
>
> "Jackeroo" <Jackeroo@nospam.net.au> wrote in message
> news:rVkMc.13522$K53.7581@news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
> Snip---------------- load of propaganda
> Cutting through the shit. What you are trying to say is that:
> 1. I should listen only to Jews
> 2. read only Jewishwebsites.
> 3. properly brainwashed christians?
>
> And simply what ever a muslim or non jewish site puts up is :
> a untrue
> b. reflects only one view.
> c. I should not believe on principle.
> Rubbish, I find it is quite the opposite.
> Next you are quoting religion to sustain other claims?
> Well if you speak for the present day Jew who has made a welter of
> reparations to other Jews disgust?
> Supported a Nazi goc\vernment in Israel which would deny you the support
of
> any self respecting God?
> Well the God you affect to follow has constantly had to belabour you to
keep
> you inline, something you through the ages were apparently quite unable to
> grasp.
> And once again you do not grasp where you stand viv a vis your claimed God
> and your behavior constantly alienstes any claim you might think you have
on
> God .
>
> And what you show is the complete inability of Jews to move into the
present
> century with new attitudes which we feel provide for immensely better
> government under the christian God of understanding and charity.
>
> A concept you cannot even imagine, and is shown in your use of  HAPPY
> HANUKAH  as a comparison for happy Christmas.Or a huge cyncal shot at
> Christians?
> http://www.everythingjewish.com/Hanukah/origins.htm
>
> And no matter how much you might wish it? Or try to sell it to the
christian
> community, it wont stick because if there are any chosen people, you have
> forgeited and the new chosen as defined by Christ are the Christians.
>
>
>
>

You aren't the only one to convey the slander represented as fact by a
Doctor Michael Todd who currently operates a Ukraine based Christian
evangelising ministry.  At least you have the intellectual integrity to
assert that the biblebelievers ww-page only "SOMETIMES TELL THE TRUTH" and
that there is a disparity between how they judge themselves and how they
judge others.

As you may ascertain from Doctor Michael Todd's www-page which supports his
ministry enterprise in the Ukraine {

btw.  I notice that the Roman Catholic Church has a $1.6 million shortfall
following the Papal visit to the Shrine of Mary at Lourdes, France: "The
Church did not exceed its estimated budget of 1.5m euros ($1.85m), Lourdes
Bishop Jacques Perrier said. However, receipts from collections amounted to
a mere 200,000 euros ($250,000). 'Organisers did not explain to pilgrims how
things worked,' he told the French AFP news agency. 'People are used to
giving in churches, but not at big rallies,' he added." Courtesy: BBC News
World Edition at 2142 hrs [#6 *, #69, #20, #70 - Difficulty in Knowing How/
Difficult to Understand, (#76, #6) {Form of Nature}] on 18 August, 2004 [#27
*, #24, #24, #55 - Abstruse Signs/ The Signet of the Mysterious, (#35, #47)}
as Boaz - in strength {Harmony? (Nature surmounts Nature / Transforming
Nature)}] < http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/3578342.stm >]

} that he at least has within his theology, a rudimentary knowledge of
Angels: < http://www.1timothy4-13.com/files/teach/art01.html >

There is even this comment from the Biblebeliever's www-page concerning the
relationship of 'junior gods' to angels, the Holy Spirit and the belief that
Los Angeles will sink beneath the Pacific--I wonder whether their claim
below is anything like Ellen G. White's claim "that one day some of New
York's tallest buildings will be reduced to dust and they will not be able
to operate their fire-engines."

"The Holy Spirit in you is your angel , a Messenger from the Lord with a
Message for your soul, which is the feminine of God. Your angel is your
ministering Spirit, your lick from the Logos or Pillar of Fire (as manifest
visibly over each of the elect in the upper room on the day of Pentecost).
It is your Part of the Word, your representation of predestination, your
Husband-part -- Christ in you. When you are born-again you have been
re-united to God through Christ. You've heard from your theophany.

In the end-time, manifested sons or "junior gods" will put sin out of their
minds by coming under preeminence to God and His Word. Giving to Him
preeminence by the transformation and surrendering of the "battleground"
between our ears, we'll have faith for rapturing grace to speak the Word.
And what we say, God will do in the manifestation of the Sons of God.

When the Voice of the Archangel and Captain of our salvation is in control
of us so that we speak only what we hear from the Son, and do only what He's
revealed to us by inspiration, dream or vision, then we're mature and in
condition for the manifestation of the Sons of God. When the Trump of God
shall sound, Satan will be cast down to earth, Los Angeles will sink beneath
the Pacific, and there'll never be another Gentile saved. We look forward to
that time and to the Wedding Supper of the Lamb in the Sky." cf:
<http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/bb840417.htm>

He ought to know that just as an autonomous {autos / one's true self, the
soul + nomos / Torah} religious belief/faith based) perspective provides "an
integral
model-namely, all-quadrant, all-level (ie. known as the Wilber model as
deployed within the Spiral Dynamics Architecture)-that attempts to provide a
framework in which all of those 'facts', if you will, can be accommodated.
The facts, that is, of both interior realities and exterior realities,
'spiritual' experiences and 'scientific' experiences, subjective realities
and objective realities. It finds ample room for the traditional Great Chain
of Being and Knowing-from matter or mind to body to soul to spirit: '...the
Lord-YaHWeH God-'ELOHIYM (mind) formed man of the dust of the ground (body),
and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life (spirit); and man became a
living soul (soul).'[Genesis 2:7] But it plugs those realities into
empirical facts in a definite and specifiable fashion." [� 2000 Ken Wilber,
'A Theory of Everything - An Integral Vision for Business, Politics, Science
& Spirituality', Shamhala Publications, Boston p 66-73]

That we may remove such mind of his out of the district of the virtues,
after he had once contracted folly, that incurable disease, and never
permit him again to return, when he also drives out and banishes from
wisdom and from the wise man every sophist, and the mother of sophists, the
teaching that is of elementary instruction {

ie. The Chaldean {as demons, or as robbers; a Magian or professional
astrologer} literary-shepher {properly writing (the art or a document); by
implication a book:-bill, book, evidence, learning, letter, register,
scroll} Art-lashon {the tongue (of man or animals), used literally (as the
instrument of licking, eating, or speech), and figuratively (speech, an
ingot, a fork of flame, a cove of water):- babbler, bay, evil speaker,
language, talker, tongue, wedge} [Daniel 1:4]

}, while he calls the names of wisdom and of the wise man Abraham {father of
a great multitude}, and Sarah {lady; princess; princess of the multitude}
[note: Philo's discourses appear reluctant to given consideration to
Abraham's third wife Keturah {that makes the incense to fume} from whom
judgment is born.]"

#91 "For come, if you please, and contemplate with me the much celebrated
festival assemblies of men. As for those which among the barbarian and
Grecian nations have been established in compliance with fabulous fictions,
all tending to no other object than to excite vain pride in various nations,
they may be all passed over, for the entire life of a man would not be long
enough to make an accurate and thorough investigation of all the absurdities
which existed in each of those festivals. But with a due regard to our time,
we will mention a few points in the most important of them, as a specimen of
the whole." [#78, #35, #80, #10 - Impossible Advice/ What can Be Done?/ #22,
#60 {

Angel / Daemon influence of Latin: Assistens Alt: Menqel {Libation Bowl of
God}] {

1. SERVES TO MAKE KNOWN THE TRUTH. AIDS THE TRIUMPH OF INNOCENCE
2. PROMPT HELP IN TRIALS
3. WITNESSES
4. Tersatosoa, Tepisatosoa}

}]  Thus removing from him any hope for Eternity!

- dolf
- <http://www.users.bigpond.net.au/telos/kabbalah/patent.html#AXIOM4>

"jackeroo" <jackeroo@nospamrock.com> wrote in message
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For instance the below is the biblebelievers, but they sometimes tell the
truth  like the New York Times, who I also use as a reference?
Benjamin Franklin  - pleaded with the members of the Continental Congress to
enter a specific ban against Jewish immigration into the U. S. Constitution
to bar them for all time to come  -
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/repute.htm

[snipped for context]

" infidel " <someone@somewhere.con> wrote in message
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Remember this poster is now "Qolon"
What a Fucker!!!
This fucker claims not only to be a Christian but a SDA, seventh day
adventist
Stuff E.G. White! http://www.biblebelievers.com/SDA/ This was the false
prophet that started the SDA's circa 1844  in the US
The bint came to " avondale " in the 1890s to "plant" a church.
Sanitarium HFC is their company.
WeetBix etc profits go to the Church!
They claim to be Australian owned.
This bint had visions, modified over time to incorporate modern discoveries.
This bint was a hatter.
Mercury was used in making 19th C hats.
Maybe a "mad hatter"?
Minimata disease?
Check the SDA frauds.
I graduated from their Avondale College, Cooranbong, NSW
The scum!
I earned a Phd in physics at a real uni.
Now happily retired.
Well done "dolf-qolon"