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Article #82Re: "Pigeon pea". Why so named?
From: Phred
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:19
Date: Thu, 01 Jun 2006 15:19
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In article <6ket72dblga3cus6s3f4vdqtn6b2t4oo6b@4ax.com>, Torsten Brinch <iaotb@inet.uni2.dk> wrote: >On Wed, 31 May 2006 11:31:05 GMT, ppnerkDELETETHIS@yahoo.com (Phred) >wrote: > >>G'day mates, >> >>A question arose today about pigeon pea (still _Cajanus cajan_ to >>me; but the taxonomists say it's now in _Atylosia_). >> >>It was quite a simple question: "Why is pigeon pea called pigeon >>pea?" [AKA "pigeonpea".] >> >>I have to say, I'm damned if I know why! It's been pigeon pea to me >>since I first met it 40 years ago, and I've never wondered why. >> >>According to <http://www.thefreedictionary.com/pigeon+pea> it's simply >>"From the use of its seeds as pigeon feed." >> >>While that may well be true, it almost sounds *too* simplistic. After >>all, the main use is for human food (red gram, toor dal, etc.) >>especially in India. >> >>So where and why has it become associated with bloody pigeons? > >I have no idea. Pass. > >>(An analogous question arises for "chickpea".) > >'Chick-pea' comes from French 'pois chiche'. It was originally >imported into English as the singular form 'chich-pease', >but the pommie ear naturally came to hear such a construction as >a plural form, so from it was synthesised the singular form >chich-pea. In the origin the French name 'pois chiche' has nothing >to do with chicken. 'Chiche' is from Latin 'cicer', which means ... >pea :-) Thanks for that, Torsten. I wonder if, in years to come, we could have the progression: pea pea --> pee pee --> wee wee? ;-) Cheers, Phred. -- ppnerkDELETE@THISyahoo.com.INVALID
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