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Article #411Re: John Searle
From: Danny
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:29
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:29
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In article <1992Dec18.003427.2149@psych.toronto.edu> michael@psych.toronto.edu (Michael Gemar) writes: >The point is that there is no *necessity* that our sensations be >equivalent, and indeed, that there is no way of telling if they >*are*. There is simply *no* objective, scientific way for you >to address my claim that what you see as a sensation of red I >see as a sensation of blue. This is the problem... I have no problem with this. >*No* popular account of consciousness (assuming dualism isn't popular) >gives a causal role to it. Functionalism certainly doesn't - there is >no reason to ascribe "consciousness" to certain functional arrangements >except for sake of discursive simplicity (i.e., "intentional stance"). >*Nobody* who's a materialist has a clue how consciousness could have >causal efficacy. (This may be all the worse for materialism, but >that's another story...) Well if it has no causal consequences why on earth would we want to believe there is such a thing? Danny.
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Newsgroups: sci.cognitive Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!uwm.edu!spool.mu.edu!agate!dog.ee.lbl.gov!network.ucsd.edu!munnari.oz.au!metro!basser.cs.su.oz.au!danny From: danny@cs.su.oz.au (Danny) Subject: Re: John Searle Organization: Basser Dept of Computer Science, University of Sydney, Australia Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 00:29:07 GMT Message-ID: <1992Dec21.002907.10911@cs.su.oz.au> References: <1992Dec15.173641.17791@psych.toronto.edu> <1992Dec17.015705.630@cs.su.oz.au> <1992Dec18.003427.2149@psych.toronto.edu> Sender: danny@cs.su.oz.au (Danny Yee) Lines: 21