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Article #548Re: Language versus concept
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:50
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:50
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On Sep 4, 11:51 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...@csuohio.edu> wrote: > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:27:54 -0700, "Peter T. Daniels" > <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote in > <news:1188962874.711693.93360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> > in sci.cognitive,sci.lang,bionet.neuroscience: > > > On Sep 4, 5:40 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...@csuohio.edu> wrote: > > [...] > > >> The article is at > >> <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&ar...> > >> in the form of 17 scanned pages; there's also a link by > >> which one can download it as a 2.9M .pdf. > >> 'On Chomsky's review of Skinner's _Verbal Behavior_' > >> Reviewed by Kenneth MacCorquodale > >> J Exp Anal Behav. 1970 January; 13(1): 83-99. > > Thank you. Did it look worth reading? > > I just skimmed the first few pages, so take anything I say > with a grain of salt, but it seemed to me that one would > have to be familiar with VB to get much out of the review: a > good chunk of MacC's argument appears to be that Chomsky > either didn't understand or misrepresented what Skinner was > actually saying. I've not read VB (and know damn-all about > behaviorism anyway), so I'm not part of the intended > audience. A first glance yields the rather telling sentence "Although his thesis is experimental, Skinner's book has no experimental data involving the laboratory manipulation of verbal responses which definitively demonstrate that the processes he invokes to explain verbal behavior are in fact involved in its production" (p. 84a)
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