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Article #549Re: Language versus concept
From: Peter T. Daniels
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:52
Date: Wed, 05 Sep 2007 11:52
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On Sep 5, 7:23 am, "Glen M. Sizemore" <gmsizemo...@yahoo.com> wrote: > "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...@csuohio.edu> wrote in messagenews:7onlzv12ejod$.21q9et8hy7e5$.dlg@40tude.net... > > > > > > > On Tue, 04 Sep 2007 20:27:54 -0700, "Peter T. Daniels" > > <gramma...@verizon.net> wrote in > > <news:1188962874.711693.93360@r29g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> > > in sci.cognitive,sci.lang,bionet.neuroscience: > > >> On Sep 4, 5:40 pm, "Brian M. Scott" <b.sc...@csuohio.edu> wrote: > > > [...] > > >>> The article is at > >>> <http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?tool=pmcentrez&ar...> > >>> in the form of 17 scanned pages; there's also a link by > >>> which one can download it as a 2.9M .pdf. > > >>> 'On Chomsky's review of Skinner's _Verbal Behavior_' > >>> Reviewed by Kenneth MacCorquodale > >>> J Exp Anal Behav. 1970 January; 13(1): 83-99. > > >> Thank you. Did it look worth reading? > > > I just skimmed the first few pages, so take anything I say > > with a grain of salt, but it seemed to me that one would > > have to be familiar with VB to get much out of the review: a > > good chunk of MacC's argument appears to be that Chomsky > > either didn't understand or misrepresented what Skinner was > > actually saying. I've not read VB (and know damn-all about > > behaviorism anyway), so I'm not part of the intended > > audience. > > But have you ever told students that Chomsky demolished Skinner's position > etc.? The intended audience was anyone interested, well, verbal behavior - > what many people would call "language acquisition" and "language" etc. It > didn't work out that way of course, and now we have cognitive "science." Why would a professor of mathematics tell "students" _anything_ about these matters? You seem to be unaware of psycholinguistics, which long predates and vastly outperforms "cognitive science."
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