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Article #1682Re: New Encryption Method - A Challenge!
From: Ken Pizzini
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:53
Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:53
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In article <n0e49t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Erik.Lindano@ofa123.fidonet.org writes: >Writes lwloen@rchland.vnet.ibm.com (Larry Loen): >> You could be asking for dozens to thousands of hours of >> work under the conditions you cite. > > Really??!! It might take that long for a professional cryptanalyst > to decrypt ONE SINGLE SHORT ENGLISH WORD in the midst of hundreds > of English words whose plain and encrypted forms are both released? > > Do you mean that? If that's the case, what is the purpose of all > the DES and RSA and PGP and all the other stuff? If it's so hard > to decrypt ONE WORD encrypted by our "junky" and worthless method, > why do we need all those "non-junky" and "worthy" methods???? First off, the "dozens to thousands of hours" is the time to break the whole _method_. Once that is done the specific messages become close to trivial. >> Moreover, in any real-world situation of any importance whatever, >> the algorithm WILL be known. > > You are absolutely wrong. Oh, c'mon now. If the scheme is to be used by more than a small handful of people then at least the executable will be available for analysis. And with a suitible effort at disassembly/decompiling it can be analysed for the underlying algolrithm. Your proposed modification of the prize to include airfare in addition to dinner is much better incentive -- before you were suggesting that someone spend their time breaking your system and spending hundreds of dollars of their own money in order to claim a "free" dinner. Didn't sound like much of an inducement to me. As to why I'm not picking this up: I'm a crypto-protocol kinda guy; I take secure encryption as an abstrict axiomatic primitive and work from there; I'm not well versed in traditional cryptanalysis. --Ken Pizzini
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Newsgroups: sci.crypt Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!mdisea!uw-coco!nwnexus!ken From: ken@halcyon.com (Ken Pizzini) Subject: Re: New Encryption Method - A Challenge! Message-ID: <1992Nov13.235310.27971@nwnexus.WA.COM> Sender: sso@nwnexus.WA.COM (System Security Officer) Organization: The 23:00 News and Mail Service References: <n0e49t@ofa123.fidonet.org> Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1992 23:53:10 GMT Lines: 44