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Article #373Re: Registered Keys - why the need?
From: Geoff Kuenning
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 04:18
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 1992 04:18
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In article <1992Nov3.090942.1626@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> denning@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu writes: > During the period 1985-1991, court-ordered electronic surveillance > conducted by the FBI alone led to 7,324 convictions, almost $300 > million in fines being levied, over $750 million in recoveries, > restitutions, and court-ordered forfeitures, and close to $2 billion in > prevented potential economic loss. Ignoring for the moment the FBI's penchant for inflating dollar figures, let's take this total of $3.05 billion as gospel. This works out to $416,000 of "economic benefit" per conviction. Not bad, given Dr. Denning's quoted figure of about $45K per wiretap, even if we figure that some (I hope a small percentage!) of the wiretaps didn't lead to a conviction. (On the other hand, many wiretaps probably produce more than one conviction.) This might explain why the government likes them so much -- they're cost-effective. Even the actual $1.05 billion of fines and recoveries make them pretty profitable. > According to the 1986 President's > Commission on Organized Crime, OC reduces the output of the U.S. > economy by $18.2 billion a year (1986 dollars), cost 414,000 jobs, > raise consumer prices by 0.3%, and lower per capita personal income by > $77.22. In other words, Organized Crime is a *TINY* drag on the overall economy, so small that it is almost impossible to measure. This is doubly true since the Feds are probably lumping drug activity into OC, with attendant inflation of "street values" and so forth. Now for my question, Dr. Denning: if I offered to save you $77.22 per year and reduce prices by 0.3%, would you be willing to give up a significant fraction of your personal liberties to achieve this? Note that I'm not talking about simple wiretapping; I'm assuming the FBI were given sufficient police-state powers to completely wipe out all organized crime, with probable attendant "collateral damage" to innocent citizens like you, your friends, family, and colleagues. OK, assuming the answer is "no", then the question is "how much freedom are you willing to give up in exchange for lesser savings?" For a lot of us, the answer is "none." For me, it's actually a negative number. -- Geoff Kuenning geoff@itcorp.com uunet!desint!geoff
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!charon.amdahl.com!pacbell.com!decwrl!elroy.jpl.nasa.gov!swrinde!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!cs.utexas.edu!sun-barr!news2me.EBay.Sun.COM!west.West.Sun.COM!smaug.West.Sun.COM!smaug.West.Sun.COM!news From: geoff@ITcorp.com (Geoff Kuenning) Newsgroups: sci.crypt,comp.org.eff.talk,alt.privacy Subject: Re: Registered Keys - why the need? Date: 4 Nov 1992 04:18:46 GMT Organization: Interrupt Technology Corporation, Chatsworth, CA Lines: 45 Distribution: world Message-ID: <1d7iv6INNm2n@smaug.West.Sun.COM> References: <715.517.uupcb@grapevine.lrk.ar.us> <1992Nov01.233637.138278@watson.ibm.com> <1992Nov3.090942.1626@guvax.acc.georgetown.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: mahler