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Article #671Re: Are DES restriction even logically sound?
From: Alan J Rosenthal
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 19:48
Date: Sat, 05 Sep 1992 19:48
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markh@csd4.csd.uwm.edu (Mark) writes: > Supposing I have a complete description of DES in text form, and I split it >into 8 parts, with file N containing every 8th character modulo N. > > If 100 people each decide to post one of these files (they make a random >choice without knowing about the other 99 people even being there), and posts >it to a place that can be publically accessed outside the US, then have any >restrictions on DES been violated? If so, who violated them? How? Don't be silly. If transmitting a complete description of DES is against some law (which it is not, according to recent discussions; flames to /dev/null), then participating in a transmission violates that same law even if your part is not sufficient to complete the act by itself. The only use of one of the eight portions is to reconstruct the original file, so the poster is obviously intended that the original file be reconstructed. Are armed robbery laws unsound because one person can point the gun and another can shout "give me all your money"? How about the fact that ten people could agree that they will each randomly decide which of these roles to play without discussing it with each other, but they'll show up at the same place at the same time (post via the same medium)? (Or to make the analogy complete, you advertise in a newspaper for people to do this, so that no one can be ABSOLUTELY sure that the others will show up, but it's clear for some reason in your town that the community mind is such that it would be extremely unlikely for no one to be interested.) Don't try to tell me that it would just be coincidence that all 100 people decided to post those files and that there was no exhortation on your part for them to be posted. It's not credible that you split up the file in that way for no reason. If you're interested in getting a description of DES out, simply post one. Or post a journal article reference.
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Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!sparky!uunet!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!rpi!utcsri!dgp.toronto.edu!flaps Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.security From: flaps@dgp.toronto.edu (Alan J Rosenthal) Subject: Re: Are DES restriction even logically sound? Message-ID: <1992Sep5.154822.10863@jarvis.csri.toronto.edu> Followup-To: alt.stupid,alt.flame References: <1992Sep5.164646.21443@uwm.edu> Date: 5 Sep 92 19:48:22 GMT Lines: 33