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2 total messages Started by Nick Barron Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:05
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#1103
Author: Nick Barron
Date: Sun, 11 Oct 1992 22:05
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In Message-ID: <1992Oct1.142348.14622@osf.org>, karger@osf.org writes:

>The British would likely not have broken Enigma during WWII, if the Germans
>had used the system in its theoretically best ways.  Most of the breaks
>came from bad procedures and lazy crypto operators.

This reminds me of the case of the German crypto operator who only ever
used two synchronising sequences - HITLER or his girlfriend's name (which
I forget!).  Apparently he was taken prisoner by the 8th Army, and when the
crypto guys found out, the 8th had to go to *amazing* lengths to let him
escape!!!!

Also, in <BvGDp3.AGt@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu>, kellmeye@ux1.cso.uiuc.edu writes:

>The Naval codes were only infrequently broken, and there was at least one 
>branch of the service (the SS?) whose Enigma codes were NEVER broken during
>the course of the war.

Well, the U-boats (and some of the other naval ops) used a machine with an
extra disc.  And as far as some codes that wer *never* broken, don't be too
sure, as we don't have an FOIA over here (UK).  My father knew one of the 
Bletchley park people and only found out 3 years ago that he was involved!
Naval Enigma & secrets....
#1105
Author: David Lesher
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1992 03:21
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# And as far as some codes that wer *never* broken, don't be too
# sure, as we don't have an FOIA over here (UK).  My father knew one of the 
# Bletchley park people and only found out 3 years ago that he was involved!

See Kahn's book on the naval Enigma effort.

It also has a good story re: keeping secrets. Seems the King toured
Bletchley Park and recognized a friend of his daughter.  He greeted her
and asked what her job was. She replied along the lines of "I'm not
permitted to tell you..."



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