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2 total messages Started by robert heuman Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:26

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Author: robert heuman
Date: Fri, 18 Dec 1992 07:26

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Date Entered: 12-18-92 02:15
tcmay@netcom.com (Timothy C. May) said:

T(> This is exactly a battle being fought by U.S. suppliers of crypto and
T(> security tools. If they cannot export their products, and users of
T(> their products cannot export either, then there are competitive
T(> losses.
T(> 
T(> Ironically, the market for crypto tools may then develop and flourish
T(> outside the U.S., with some products being "allowed in" to an
T(> increasingly backward U.S. market.
T(> 
Remove the MAY from the above paragraph.  The correct statement is the 
the market IS developed and does flourish, and that the US is losing 
out on market share. Of course, until the rules are changed, and the 
nonsense about crypto is ended in the US, this will continue.

Incidently, the export controls also make it illegal to export 
anti-virus shareware, but NOT illegal to export anti-virus 
shrink-wrapped software sold over the counter (read them carefully to 
find the exemption). Another example of silly rules.  F-PROT or the 
McAfee suite of programs cannot be exported under these rules (F-PROT 
originates in Iceland, so the author does not care about these US 
rules) but CPAV, NAV and Untouchable can be exported. This makes about 
as much sense as the rules re export of Crypto.  Anyway, SCAN and 
CLEAN, etc., by McAfee are exported all over the world (or imported 
at the other end), ignoring the rules.  Take the bull by the horns and 
do the same for all of the Crypto material.

Bob Heuman <robert.heuman@rose.com>
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Re: RSA Data Security Not

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Author: Vesselin Bontchev
Date: Mon, 21 Dec 1992 14:47

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robert.heuman@rose.com (robert heuman) writes:

> Incidently, the export controls also make it illegal to export 
> anti-virus shareware, but NOT illegal to export anti-virus 
> shrink-wrapped software sold over the counter (read them carefully to 
> find the exemption). Another example of silly rules.  F-PROT or the 
> McAfee suite of programs cannot be exported under these rules (F-PROT 
> originates in Iceland, so the author does not care about these US 
> rules) but CPAV, NAV and Untouchable can be exported. This makes about 
> as much sense as the rules re export of Crypto.  Anyway, SCAN and 
> CLEAN, etc., by McAfee are exported all over the world (or imported 
> at the other end), ignoring the rules.  Take the bull by the horns and 
> do the same for all of the Crypto material.

Ha, that's very interesting! Could you please provide the exact
quotations that rule out the anti-virus software exports as illegal?
Maybe it would be a good idea to cross-post to comp.virus too...

As to the export of "big" packages regardless the restrictions, well
we have here a perfectly legally bought copy of Norton Utilities 6.01,
which includes DES encryption of the hard disk and bears the sticker
"Not for export"... :-)

Regards,
Vesselin
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