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Article #2981Re: ---economic analysis of the quake, Kobe 95
From: S.Schubert
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 14:38
Date: Tue, 07 Feb 1995 14:38
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miha0008@gold.tc.umn.edu (H. Reiju Mihara) wrote: > > In article <IKEDA.95Jan31170604@b.mag.keio.ac.jp>, ikeda@mag.keio.ac.jp > (Nobuo Ikeda) wrote: > > > Indeed, I don't think you did it well. > > You mentioned a lot of names of books, but nothing about their > > contents. Nothing in the "microeconomics" supports your strange > > explanation of [peoples' responses to] the disaster. > > Yes, I did mention, for example, what Gary S. Becker says: "Modern economic > is above all a way of thinking about social behavior. When a person > decides to engage in any activity, the economist instinctively looks for > benefits > to that person that exceed his costs." And I attmepted what Becker says. > I do not claim that the established microeconomics supoports my > explanation. I didn't _apply_ results of economics; instead, I did _do_ > economics (=applied the economic way of thinking). So, to show my > explanation is poor economics, it is not enough to say that my explanation > is not supported by the established economics (though it actually is). > Rather, you have to give a better explanation based on rationality of > individuals. > > > > There _were_ certainly quite a few people from outside of the heavily > > > damaged area of Kobe that attempted to get in and to take a sight of the > > > area (whatever their motives were). This caused an unnecessary traffic > > > congestion, which made the travel costly (time consuming). So, it seems > > > that at least half of my assertion is correct that people are willing to > > > pay an "admission fee" to participate in the historical event. > > > > OK, you say people have positive utility for the earthquake, even if > > their family are killed and their house damaged. > > If you think so seriously, please pay "admission fee" to go to Kobe > > and have your family killed by the "historical event". Advisedly put > > him (or her) under the buildings about to collapse. It would be > > "exciting" and you would feel "heroic". > > There's no such things as "positive utility" unless you fix a reference > point. Also, it is common knowledge in economics that _sunk costs_ (costs > that have already been incurred as a result of past decisions; also > referred to as "historical costs") should not directly affect current > choices. You are confusing past and future. > > > The cars from outside are spectators', not victims'. It doesn't confirm > > your ridiculous "theory" in any way. > > Right. You intentionally ignored what I wrote just after what you quoted > from me. That's not a sincere strategy. > > > You can say any nonsense as you like, but you have no rights to offend > > the victims of the disaster by your bad joke, which has nothing to do > > with economics. > > Unfortunately, people have _rights_ to offend others by what they _say_. > (It is called the "freedom of speeach.") Just that it is not cordial to do > so. > > -- > \\ // > H. Reiju Mihara (miha0008@gold.tc.umn.edu) > is a name of some sort > of individual > // \\
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X-Google-Language: ENGLISH,ASCII-7-bit X-Google-Thread: fd5f7,73e7f60cb01eff6a X-Google-Attributes: gidfd5f7,public X-Google-Thread: 10a733,73e7f60cb01eff6a X-Google-Attributes: gid10a733,public X-Google-ArrivalTime: 1995-02-07 07:09:34 PST Path: arc1-ca.pugleaf.net!swrinde!pipex!sunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk!qmw!news From: "S.Schubert" <TE3153@QMWCC6.qmw.ac.uk> Newsgroups: sci.econ,fj.soc.misc Subject: Re: ---economic analysis of the quake, Kobe 95 Date: 7 Feb 1995 14:38:35 GMT Organization: Queen Mary & Westfield College, London, UK Lines: 64 Message-ID: <3h80lb$avd@epsilon.qmw.ac.uk> References: <miha0008-200195015334@dialup-1-10.gw.umn.edu> <IKEDA.95Jan31170604@b.mag.keio.ac.jp> <miha0008-020295020535@dialup-2-97.gw.umn.edu> NNTP-Posting-Host: pc-106-062.stu.qmw.ac.uk