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Re: The myth of the Guest worker program and amnesty - they dont work and never have

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From: fred
Date: Sat, 02 Sep 2006 19:29
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"gringogirl" <sumarlidhi@yahoo.com> wrote in message 
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> JOBS AND WAGES 9 from www.numbersusa.com
>
> There is no such thing as a "temporary" worker.
>
> By creating a new "temporary" guestworker program and artificially
> increasing the supply of workers, big business has no incentive to
> raise wages, enhance benefits, or better working conditions for such
> workers. This artificial inflation of labor supply also tends to remove
> much of business' incentive to innovate, whereas a tighter labor
> market is more likely to modernize as to be more efficient and
> effective.
>
> According to the Pew Hispanic Center, only five percent of illegal
> aliens from Mexico were unemployed before they unlawfully came to the
> United States, so gainful employment doesn't appear to be the driving
> force behind illegal immigration. However, the Bureau of Labor
> Statistics puts the level of unemployment among the 12 million American
> adults who do not have a high school diploma - most of whom are
> competing with the illegal aliens for low-wage, low-skill jobs - at
> nearly nine percent.
>
> Temporary-worker programs are often portrayed as a legal and humane
> alternative to unauthorized migration. But they fail to acknowledge
> that the last major Mexico-US temporary worker program, the so-called
> Bracero program, actually was the initiator and accelerator of today's
> large-scale unauthorized migration. 4.9 million Mexicans were
> apprehended during the Bracero years.
>
> 14 Million Americans cannot find a full-time job. Why are Senators
> pushing for a massive guestworker program?
>
> COSTS
>
> Federal law mandates that hospital emergency rooms treat any person
> who seeks care. The Center for Immigration Studies (CIS) found, in
> 2004, that annual costs to treat uninsured illegal aliens run to
> approximately $2.2 billion. Recent Federal efforts to reimburse
> hospitals for uncompensated care notwithstanding, recovering unpaid
> costs has been exceptionally difficult and has caused the ruin of
> numerous healthcare facilities. According to a report in the Spring
> 2005 issue of the Journal of American Physicians and Surgeons, 84
> hospitals in California alone are closing as a direct consequence of
> the rising number of illegal aliens and their non-reimbursed tax on the
> system.
>
> In 2004, an estimated 27 percent of the federal prison population was
> comprised of illegal aliens, though illegal aliens account for about 4
> percent of the overall U.S. population. GAO found the cost to the
> federal prisons is an estimated $1.2 billion for 2004.
>
> The Social Security system will worsen, not improve, under an amnesty.
> These low-income workers are unlikely to pay enough in payroll taxes to
> support current beneficiaries. When amnestied workers retire, they will
> collect far more in Social Security payments than they ever paid into
> the system.
>
> Estimates suggest it would cost $5 billion to install triple fence
> covering the entire 2,000 miles of the Southwestern border. That cost
> is much less than the economic cost of illegal immigration to
> California alone for one year. When Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ) recently asked
> Sen. Diane Feinstein (D-CA) how effective the fence has been in
> California, she said it was so effective that it forced most of the
> illegal aliens to cross through Arizona.
>
> SECURITY
>
> U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services is under fire following news
> reports that fraud is rampant and that the rules governing eligibility
> for immigration status are being ignored. And these are the people we
> expect to keep tabs on who stays - and takes jobs, money, and
> resources away from American citizens - and who goes?
>
> Past amnesties for illegal aliens have facilitated terrorism. Mahmud
> Abouhalima, a leader of the 1993 Trade Center bombing, was legalized as
> a seasonal agricultural worker as part of the 1986 amnesty. After
> legalizing he was able to travel abroad, including several trips to
> Afghanistan, where he received the training he used in the bombing.
>
> The USCIS has not yet dealt with the 500 claims of criminal misconduct
> against its employees, including espionage and acceptance of bribes. I
> think most Americans would agree that this is not the right time to
> create a massive guestworker program to help illegal aliens gain legal
> status.
>
> The misguided policy of "catch-and-release" allows "Other Than
> Mexicans" (OTMs) apprehended near the border being released on their
> own recognizance pending a deportation hearing, provided they have no
> felony convictions and are not considered to pose a threat to national
> security. However, only about 15 percent of these OTMs show up for
> their hearings. In most of these cases, unfortunately, DHS has no
> further contact with the alien and does not ensure that the person
> leaves the country, which then allows the alien to blend into his/her
> community as they feel little fear of being found out by a hapless DHS.
>
>
> INTERIOR ENFORCEMENT
>
> There are clear ways to get illegal aliens to go back home without
> mass deportation. We must focus on interior enforcement, rather than
> amnesty.
>
>
> More than 600,000 state and local law enforcement officers already
> come into contact with illegal aliens every day so we must make greater
> use of them in this crisis. The problem is that many are unsure of
> their authority and hence do nothing. Plus, the officers who do arrest
> such aliens, and then contact federal immigration officials, are
> frequently told to release the aliens because of a lack of federal
> personnel to process them or facilities to detain them.
>
> The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 made it illegal for an
> employer to knowingly hire or employ illegal aliens. Employers also
> must check the identity and work eligibility documents of all new
> hires. Unfortunately, the Department of Homeland Security rarely
> enforces this law anymore and, when it does, imposes minimal penalties.
> By way of illustration, Immigration and Customs Enforcement issued only
> three Notices of Intent to Fine employers and made only 159 worksite
> enforcement criminal arrests in fiscal year 2004 (down from 417 and
> 2,849, respectively, in fiscal 1999).
>
> H.R. 4437 would finally mandate that every employer in the United
> States use the federal Internet/phone verification system that quickly
> and easily determines if a new hire is legally eligible to work here.
> Currently called the Basic Pilot program, this system for verifying
> Social Security numbers would prevent most illegal aliens from getting
> jobs with legitimate employers. While no single enforcement measure
> would stop all illegal immigration, this is the single-most important
> solution to rectifying our nation's half-hearted effort to tackle the
> problem.
>
> I understand all non-citizens are supposed to pass through an
> exit-entry system anywhere in the US but that it hasn't been put in
> place yet. How can the government run a guestworker program if it
> doesn't know who is entering and leaving the country?
>
> MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT H.R. 4437
>
> The House-passed bill (H.R. 4437) does not target churches and aid
> providers as some have claimed. Broad language prohibiting the
> encouragement of illegal immigration has always existed in the alien
> smuggling statute and these amendments do not change that. The same is
> true of transportation. Prosecutorial discretion has always been
> exercised to avoid any gray areas, and the Department of Justice is
> unaware of any effort by federal prosecutors to use the statute in the
> manner claimed by some critics.
>
> PAST AMNESTIES HAVE FAILED
>
> Most current proposals involve some form of "legalization" to "clear
> the slate" of about 12 million unauthorized residents, usually via a
> gradual process by which unlawful residents can earn legal immigrant
> status by doing farm or other work. Such policies have a dismal recent
> history. In 1987-88, 2.8 million unauthorized migrants obtained US
> legal status. Yet despite this massive legalization, the farm labor
> market in California again is dominated by unauthorized workers.
>
> The Senate Judiciary Committee bill will entice millions of people to
> come to America illegally knowing that eventually we'll give in and let
> them stay. This is exactly what has happened with amnesties and guest
> worker programs in the past.
>
> Proponents of the Senate Judiciary Committee bill claim it doesn't
> reward illegal aliens for breaking the law, but that is exactly what
> your bill does. It's almost like a get-out-of-jail-free card. They have
> to wait a few years and pay a fine. And they don't even have to leave
> the country. That's a big-time reward.
>
> ENVIRONMENT
>
> Without significant immigration reforms, not only will the population
> grow, but stores of nonrenewable resources - like wildlife habitat
> and open space - will diminish. Reducing current immigration levels
> range would be a dramatic step toward a stabilized, sustainable
> population for there would be less pollution, less sprawl, less
> congestion, and with a tighter job market, affluence would be more
> widespread throughout all levels of society
>

"Cheap" labor is going to prove very, very expensive.

Fred 
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