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Article #69Re: Children's Comp. Sci. education
From: Brian Harvey
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:56
Date: Fri, 28 Aug 1992 23:56
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chuck@ksr.com (Chuck Shavit) writes: >Why would you want to teach Logo to very young children? As I understand >it, Logo is a tool for developing math and programming skills. But at the >level described above, it seems to me that there is very little educational >(math and programming) value to a session in which the very young kid press >some buttons on the keyboard and watch the effect on a graphics display. Certainly I wouldn't want a kid (or anyone!) to play with Logo *instead of* having lots of other experiences, both with and without a computer. Caveat #2: My teaching experience is all high school and above, so I'm now talking about my understanding of other people's ideas, not my own work. I think that the idea of Logo for young kids is partly to get across the idea of algorithms -- that a repeatable set of instructions causes something repeatable to happen on the screen -- and also partly to begin developing the ideas of distance and angle. The kid who uses an INSTANT program isn't working with numbers, but is doing a sort of pre-number exploration in which pushing the button once causes a little change and pushing the button a bunch causes a bigger change. Much of this sort of thing has been done by researchers whose interest was to see just how young a child can be and still understand mathematical things. (Did you see the article in the news yesterday about some study that seems to show tiny preverbal kids understanding 1+1=2?) I'm not terribly interested in accelerating kids, but it *is* interesting to know what's possible. By the way, programming skill isn't mostly what Logo is about; the idea is to use programming in service of the mathematics. (Although I'm an exception because I use Logo to teach people computer science.)
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