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Article #171Re: Noob Help... LED Flip Flop Help
From: Lionel
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:13
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:13
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Don Bowey wrote: > On 4/8/07 9:33 PM, in article cfgj13p5sq1au0mfja81ccunsc77m673h2@4ax.com, > "Lionel" <usenet@imagenoir.com> wrote: > >> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:33:04 -0500, John Fields >> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote: >> >>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:35:20 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:29:56 -0500, John Fields >>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:40:40 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:01:59 -0500, John Fields >>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:33:24 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:26:25 -0500, John Fields >>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:19:52 -0500, John Fields >>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:31:13 -0500, John Fields >>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Seems like carelessness is your modus vivendi. Here: >>>>>>>> ^^^^^^^^^^^^ >>>>>>>>>>> news:nuul0394807o6fkdavpshj779ksntt4kpg@4ax.com >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> Slight modification: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> +---------+ >>>>>>>>>> | +-----+ | +-----+ >>>>>>>>>> +-|D Q|-|-----|S Q|----[LED>]-+ >>>>>>>>>> CLK>-----|> _| | | _| | >>>>>>>>>> | Q|-+-----|R Q|----[LED>]-+ >>>>>>>>>> +-----+ +-----+ | >>>>>>>>>> U1A U1B [R] >>>>>>>>>> | >>>>>>>>>> GND >>>>>>>>> Bad idea for 4000 CMOS running With Vcc high enough to reverse-bias >>>>>>>>> the LED in excess of its rating. >>>>>>>> What was that you were just saying about carelessness, Johnny? >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> _Not_ having posted the caveat would have been careless. The single >>>>>>> resistor would be fine, (since no more than one LED would be on at a >>>>>>> time) and maybe save a few pennies in systems running with 5V Vcc, >>>>>>> but since 4K CMOS can be run at up to 18V, at that voltage the >>>>>>> resistor would be dropping about 16V, (for an LED Vf of 2V) severely >>>>>>> reverse-biasing the OFF LED, fuckhead. >>>>>> But it took you a total of three posts (as noted by the '^^^' in the >>>>>> quoted text) to get to that point. And yet when I made a similar error >>>>>> - which I also corrected - you started screeching & squawking about my >>>>>> oh-so terrible mistake. Seems to me that you're being more than a >>>>>> little hypocritical, Little Johnny Liar. >>>>> --- >>>>> My first post was fine. >>>>> >>>>> My second post was an improvement over the first with an oversight >>>>> which I corrected as soon as I realized it. >>>> Because it's a minor 'oversight' & totally un noteworthy when you do >>>> it, but total, completely unforgivable incompetence when someone else >>>> does it, eh Johnny? Most people would call that hypocrisy, son. >>> --- >>> Nope, just you, because you're grasping at straws trying to un-spank >>> yourself. It ain't gonna work, jork. >>> >>> My tech advice is good. Yours isn't. End of story. >> You really are full of shit, Johnny. > > I'm surprised to find you still lurking here...... > > Well, Lionel, John is capable of turning out a good design and then having > cool ideas he likes better. This is good. > > You can't turn out a design, so you don't, and don't have cool ideas. > > You really are full of shit, choo choo. > Your opinion means so much to me. Really it does. >
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