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Re: Noob Help... LED Flip Flop Help

#171
From: Lionel
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 18:13
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Don Bowey wrote:
> On 4/8/07 9:33 PM, in article cfgj13p5sq1au0mfja81ccunsc77m673h2@4ax.com,
> "Lionel" <usenet@imagenoir.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:33:04 -0500, John Fields
>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:35:20 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:29:56 -0500, John Fields
>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:40:40 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:01:59 -0500, John Fields
>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:33:24 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:26:25 -0500, John Fields
>>>>>>>>                    ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:19:52 -0500, John Fields
>>>>>>>>                     ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:31:13 -0500, John Fields
>>>>>>>>                      ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Seems like carelessness is your modus vivendi.  Here:
>>>>>>>>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>>> news:nuul0394807o6fkdavpshj779ksntt4kpg@4ax.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>>> Slight modification:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>       +---------+
>>>>>>>>>>       | +-----+ |     +-----+
>>>>>>>>>>       +-|D   Q|-|-----|S   Q|----[LED>]-+
>>>>>>>>>> CLK>-----|>   _| |     |    _|           |
>>>>>>>>>>         |    Q|-+-----|R   Q|----[LED>]-+
>>>>>>>>>>         +-----+       +-----+           |
>>>>>>>>>>           U1A           U1B            [R]
>>>>>>>>>>                                         |
>>>>>>>>>>                                        GND
>>>>>>>>> Bad idea for 4000 CMOS running With Vcc high enough to reverse-bias
>>>>>>>>> the LED in excess of its rating.
>>>>>>>> What was that you were just saying about carelessness, Johnny?
>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>> _Not_ having posted the caveat would have been careless.  The single
>>>>>>> resistor would be fine, (since no more than one LED would be on at a
>>>>>>> time) and maybe save a few pennies in systems running with 5V Vcc,
>>>>>>> but since 4K CMOS can be run at up to 18V, at that voltage the
>>>>>>> resistor would be dropping about 16V, (for an LED Vf of 2V) severely
>>>>>>> reverse-biasing the OFF LED, fuckhead.
>>>>>> But it took you a total of three posts (as noted by the '^^^' in the
>>>>>> quoted text) to get to that point. And yet when I made a similar error
>>>>>> - which I also corrected - you started screeching & squawking about my
>>>>>> oh-so terrible mistake. Seems to me that you're being more than a
>>>>>> little hypocritical, Little Johnny Liar.
>>>>> ---
>>>>> My first post was fine.
>>>>>
>>>>> My second post was an improvement over the first with an oversight
>>>>> which I corrected as soon as I realized it.
>>>> Because it's a minor 'oversight' & totally un noteworthy when you do
>>>> it, but total, completely unforgivable incompetence when someone else
>>>> does it, eh Johnny? Most people would call that hypocrisy, son.
>>> ---
>>> Nope, just you, because you're grasping at straws trying to un-spank
>>> yourself.  It ain't gonna work, jork.
>>>
>>> My tech advice is good. Yours isn't. End of story.
>> You really are full of shit, Johnny.
> 
> I'm surprised to find you still lurking here......
> 
> Well, Lionel, John is capable of turning out a good design and then having
> cool ideas he likes better.  This is good.
> 
> You can't turn out a design, so you don't, and don't have cool ideas.
> 
> You really are full of shit, choo choo.
> 
Your opinion means so much to me. Really it does.
> 
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