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Re: Noob Help... LED Flip Flop Help

#172
From: Henry Schmidt
Date: Mon, 09 Apr 2007 05:09
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Lionel wrote:
> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 06:33:04 -0500, John Fields
> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 07 Apr 2007 02:35:20 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 09:29:56 -0500, John Fields
>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 23:40:40 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 08:01:59 -0500, John Fields
>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 13:33:24 +1000, Lionel <usenet@imagenoir.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:26:25 -0500, John Fields 
>>>>>>>                    ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 11:19:52 -0500, John Fields
>>>>>>>                     ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 05 Apr 2007 09:31:13 -0500, John Fields
>>>>>>>                      ^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>> <jfields@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Seems like carelessness is your modus vivendi.  Here:
>>>>>>>              ^^^^^^^^^^^^
>>>>>>>>>> news:nuul0394807o6fkdavpshj779ksntt4kpg@4ax.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---
>>>>>>>>> Slight modification:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>       +---------+
>>>>>>>>>       | +-----+ |     +-----+
>>>>>>>>>       +-|D   Q|-|-----|S   Q|----[LED>]-+
>>>>>>>>> CLK>-----|>   _| |     |    _|           |
>>>>>>>>>         |    Q|-+-----|R   Q|----[LED>]-+
>>>>>>>>>         +-----+       +-----+           |
>>>>>>>>>           U1A           U1B            [R]
>>>>>>>>>                                         |
>>>>>>>>>                                        GND
>>>>>>>> Bad idea for 4000 CMOS running With Vcc high enough to reverse-bias
>>>>>>>> the LED in excess of its rating.
>>>>>>> What was that you were just saying about carelessness, Johnny?
>>>>>> ---
>>>>>> _Not_ having posted the caveat would have been careless.  The single
>>>>>> resistor would be fine, (since no more than one LED would be on at a
>>>>>> time) and maybe save a few pennies in systems running with 5V Vcc,
>>>>>> but since 4K CMOS can be run at up to 18V, at that voltage the
>>>>>> resistor would be dropping about 16V, (for an LED Vf of 2V) severely
>>>>>> reverse-biasing the OFF LED, fuckhead.
>>>>> But it took you a total of three posts (as noted by the '^^^' in the
>>>>> quoted text) to get to that point. And yet when I made a similar error
>>>>> - which I also corrected - you started screeching & squawking about my
>>>>> oh-so terrible mistake. Seems to me that you're being more than a
>>>>> little hypocritical, Little Johnny Liar.
>>>> ---
>>>> My first post was fine.
>>>>
>>>> My second post was an improvement over the first with an oversight
>>>> which I corrected as soon as I realized it.
>>> Because it's a minor 'oversight' & totally un noteworthy when you do
>>> it, but total, completely unforgivable incompetence when someone else
>>> does it, eh Johnny? Most people would call that hypocrisy, son.
>> ---
>> Nope, just you, because you're grasping at straws trying to un-spank
>> yourself.  It ain't gonna work, jork.  
>>
>> My tech advice is good. Yours isn't. End of story.
> 
> You really are full of shit, Johnny.
> 
Kook. Looney Loonel
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