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Article #1756Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Phil Hobbs
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 03:10
Date: Sun, 18 May 2008 03:10
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David L. Jones wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelations@hotmail.com> wrote in message > news:482FA872.804C42A9@hotmail.com... >> >> "David L. Jones" wrote: >> >>> I just saw the movie Who Killed the Electric Car?: >>> http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0489037/ >>> >>> Fantastic! >> It completely misses the point. > > Sounds like it's you who missed the point of the movie. > >>> Everyone should watch this one. >>> The IMDB user comment is spot on - " This film WILL frustrate you >>> greatly" >>> In fact, it's enough to make you want to cry. >>> >>> Can't believe I had never heard of the movie before the other day. >> http://gm-volt.com/2008/05/11/the-ev-1-wasnt-killed-it-was-dead-on-arrival/ >> >> Required to do so, GM went on to make the EV-1. It used lead acid >> batteries >> which held 0.4% as much energy as the same weight of gasoline. > > Irrelevant. > >> Thus the EV-1 >> weighed 2970 lbs, 1175 lbs of which were the batteries. > > Also irrelevant. > >> The resulting range >> was 90/70 miles hwy/city. > > Plenty enough for the majority of people. Especially when you can > conveniently recharge at home, at work, or at a shopping centre etc. > >> To achieve this, the tiny two-seater also had to >> have the record lowest CD, the most advanced powertrain of the day, and a >> cost >> of $80,000 (they were only leased to consumers). > > So what? price would come down in time. > Thousands of people buy $80,00 cars every day. > > No excuse for GM to go to ridiculous lengths to get back every one of the > cars and then crush them literally out of existence. Especially when there > were thousands who would have taken them off their hands and waived all > rights to support. > GM did an evil thing, just evil. > >> The article concludes: >> >> "In the end, though, the price wasn't an issue. The reality is the EV1 was >> hostage to a technology the engineers knew from the get-go just wasn't >> able to >> do the job Roger Smith and the California Air Resources Board believed it >> could. That's what killed the electric car." > > Everyone had better rush and get one of those Humvees with the $100,000 Bush > government tax rebate before the new government gets in. Or has that > fire-sale finished already? > > Dave. > > A lot of assets get crushed on account of the corporate tax code and accounting rules. I vividly remember 1992, when IBM got into the glue really badly--we crushed a whole lot of brand new equipment, all paid for and everything, because our budgets were being slashed and it was either keep the people or keep the equipment--which had to have the depreciation paid. The waste was astronomical, but the management was in a bind and did their best with the choices available. Cheers, Phil Hobbs
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