Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?

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From: Martin Brown
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 07:54

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Joerg wrote:
> terryc wrote:
>> On Fri, 16 May 2008 18:13:45 -0700, Joerg wrote:
>>
>>>> Pure electric-only EVs aren't the answer. It'll be HEVs that most 
>>>> likely win
>>>> the day.
>>
>>> Hydrogen? Where's that going to be coming from?
>>
>> Exactly. My 2c is on a proper hybrid where the ICE(petrol or diesel)
>> simply runs a generator that tops up the battery bank.
>> I would really like to see if that works out more efficent that all the
>> inefficencies of current direct drive ICEs.
> 
> That's how the Toyota Prius works. Gets between 40mpg and 60mpg 
> according to what owners told me.

Which isn't all that impressive by European or Japanese standards of 
fuel efficiency. A BMW 3 series deisel saloon will manage that. eg

http://saveyourcash.co.uk/fuel/cardatadetail.aspx?mfr=BMW&model=3-Series-E90/E91/E92/E93&id=632

Urban 39.8 Motorway 64.2 mpg to save you following the link.

(and it will turn in that sort of excellent fuel efficiency at speeds 
well above the UK national speed limit of 70mph)

Factor in the energy costs of making and disposal of the Prius batteries 
and the deisel BMW almost certainly wins on lifetime costs.

BTW: How long do Prius batteries last?

Regards,
Martin Brown
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