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Article #1793Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Joerg
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:38
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 14:38
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Jeff Liebermann wrote: > On Sun, 18 May 2008 17:12:42 -0700, Joerg > <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > >>> PG&E rates vary with usage and season. The cost to charge the fleet >>> of electric vehicles would have placed them in nearly the highest >>> rates. See: >>> <http://www.pge.com/tariffs/ResElecCurrent.xls> >>> That's the current residential rates. My guess is that electricity >>> would cost about $0.30/kw-hr at the highest rate. > >> Can't see the spreadsheet but IIRC it does cost that much. > > Y'er news header shows that you're using Windoze. You might want to > download the various Word, Excel, and Powerpoint viewers from > Microsloth. > > Word 2003: > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=95e24c87-8732-48d5-8689-ab826e7b8fdf&displaylang=en> > > Excel 2003: > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=c8378bf4-996c-4569-b547-75edbd03aaf0&displaylang=en> > > PowerPointless 2007: > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?familyid=048DC840-14E1-467D-8DCA-19D2A8FD7485&displaylang=en> > > Visio 2003: > <http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=3fb3bd5c-fed1-46cf-bd53-da23635ab2df&DisplayLang=en> > >> The reason why PV is popular in Europe is that goverments there provide >> HUGE subsidies. They often get well north of 50c/kWh and the other >> ratepayers foot the bill. There is no free lunch. > > "The world's largest solar power plant is only the latest addition to > Germany's investment in alternative power..." > <http://money.cnn.com/magazines/fortune/fortune_archive/2007/05/28/100049624/index.htm> > > The way I understand it (from a rather marginal TV documentary) the > logic is that when the oil runs out, Germany will have electricity > while most other countries will not. It's also part of creating jobs > and dealing with the unemployment problem. German taxpayers > apparently paid about $3.8 billion last year to subsidize alternative > engergy sources. Whatever it takes. > I have Excel. "An unknown error occurred", the usual meaningful MS error message :-( -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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