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Article #1850Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Joerg
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:36
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:36
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Jim Thompson wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:47:27 -0700, Joerg > <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: > >> Damon Hill wrote: >>> http:/www.teslamotors.com >>> >>> Seems to be very real. >>> >>> And really expensive. >>> >>> I'm waiting to see if they survive long enough to roll out their >>> "economy" concepts. Are Elon Musk's pockets deep enough? >>> >>> http://www.commutercars.com/ >>> >>> Here's one that seems more practical, but the company isn't >>> going anywhere fast after years of publicity. >>> >>> Battery technology is critical. I think a deep hybrid would >>> be more practical and affordable, but an all-electric with a >>> reliable 100 mile range would meet nearly all of my needs. >>> >>> >>> --Damon, wondering if his electric service would be adequate >> >> There is a major stumbling block in areas like ours: Monopoly, plus >> baseline usage rules the monopoly imposes. The millisecond you exceed >> baseline by IIRC as little as 30% electricity becomes painfully >> expensive. Anyone who dared to use their A/C in summer knows that. >> Unless this changes or one can line up a sweet and most of all longterm >> night-time deal there won't be a realistic future for electric cars. > > Joerg, > > How much of your electricity cost is actually California taxes? > A coarse peek shows about 20% fees, charges, bond measures. A.k.a taxes. > How come electricity is dramatically cheaper in AZ than CA when you > have (or should have) lots of water-generated electricity? > It probably is but since deregulation prices have skyrocketed. There is a hockeystick effect in that up to a limit it stays a bit under 15c/kWh, then shoots up sky-high. This stifles start-up business in the area but politicians seem to fail to understand that. In muni-supplied areas it's much better. I am not much for gov-involvement but for electricity the fact is that people like us who are served by private sector utilities must pay through the nose. Because they gave them a monopoly and monopolies never work. With monopolies they usually sock it to you. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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