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Article #1851Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Joerg
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:41
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 18:41
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Damon Hill wrote: > Joerg <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote in news:YMjXj.285 > $co7.135@nlpi066.nbdc.sbc.com: > >> Damon Hill wrote: > >>> --Damon, wondering if his electric service would be adequate >> >> There is a major stumbling block in areas like ours: Monopoly, plus >> baseline usage rules the monopoly imposes. The millisecond you exceed >> baseline by IIRC as little as 30% electricity becomes painfully >> expensive. Anyone who dared to use their A/C in summer knows that. >> Unless this changes or one can line up a sweet and most of all longterm >> night-time deal there won't be a realistic future for electric cars. > > Yeah, that's a gotcha I've been wondering about. Seems like a > smart charger would have to monitor total household current and > toe the baseline--especially during peak use hours. Result: no > quick charge when one might need it most. Hence the thought about > a deep hybrid... > Smart charging won't help. Baseline is counted over one month, no matter when you used it. Night-reduction deals are available but then the cost of running my biz will skyrocket because that has to be during the day. At least it used to be that you only get the deal when you accept very high "peak time" charges. For us that never made any sense. > Should electric vehicles start to appear in significant numbers, this > and electric grid capacity issues will pop up like red flags. The > electricity infrastructure will have to adapt, which will not be > inexpensive. > Yep. But more important are longterm utility deals. In Europe we were able to negotiate a 10-year deal before deciding to invest in a heat pump system. Still, only a handful of people in town did, some hesitated because 10 years wasn't enough planning security. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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