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Article #1868Re: Who Killed the Electric Car?
From: Joerg
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:55
Date: Fri, 16 May 2008 23:55
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Franc Zabkar wrote: > On Fri, 16 May 2008 10:59:46 -0700, Jeff Liebermann <jeffl@cruzio.com> > put finger to keyboard and composed: > >> On Fri, 16 May 2008 09:45:34 -0700, Joerg >> <notthisjoergsch@removethispacbell.net> wrote: >> >>> The concept of electric cars is a whole lot older than 30 years: >>> http://www.thoroughbred-cars.com/electric.htm >> I have a repair manual for an electric delivery vehicle made prior to >> WWI. It was used for delivering milk to homes (no refridgeration) in >> the pre-dawn hours. Since noise was then considered a serious >> problem, electric delivery vehicles were the only option. >> >> Note that there are several Li-Ion conversions for Prius hybrids >> effectively making them electric cars. >> <http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/34422/113/> >> The new battery and plug-in charger extends the battery only range of >> the Prius from about 7 miles to about 20 miles. >> >> However, gas, electric, and such will soon be out of fashion. What we >> need is a nuclear powered automobile.: >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Nucleon> > > Australia has plenty of gas. Maybe this car would be a viable option: > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysler_Turbine_Car > > "The fourth-generation Chrysler turbine engine ran at up to 60,000 rpm > could use diesel fuel, unleaded gasoline, kerosene, JP-4 jet fuel, and > even vegetable oil. The engine would run virtually on anything and the > president of Mexico tested this theory by running one of the first > cars - successfully - on tequila. No adjustments were needed to switch > from one to another. The engine had a fifth as many moving parts as a > piston unit (60 rather than 300). The turbine was spinning on simple > sleeve bearings for vibration-free running. Its simplicity offered the > potential for long life, and because no combustion contaminants enter > engine oil, no oil changes were considered necessary. The 1963 > Turbine's engine generated 130 brake horsepower (97 kW) and an instant > 425 pound-feet (576 NīŋŊm) of torque at stall speed, making it good for > 0-60 mph in 12 seconds ..." > Rover had built a similar car but AFAIR only one. The manager once let another guy whom he'd picked up somewhere take it for a spin and he was thoroughly impressed. But as usual the gas mileage was quite terrible. Probably there is a lot of load change lag as well. Somehow a great concept if one could get the NOX under control but nowadays all that is water under the bridge anyhow. -- Regards, Joerg http://www.analogconsultants.com/ "gmail" domain blocked because of excessive spam. Use another domain or send PM.
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