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Article #2073Re: Low-loss 50 Ohm coaxial cables + connectors for them?
From: aalaan
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:24
Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2006 21:24
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Something strange about this apparently sophisticated app and yet needing all this basic info... "Vitaliy" <vmykhayl@ee.ryerson.ca> wrote in message news:1153515781.364641.262600@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com... > dmm wrote: >> On 20 Jul 2006 12:21:39 -0700, "Vitaliy" <vmykhayl@ee.ryerson.ca> wrote: >> >> >Hello, >> >Can someone please explain me how the coaxial cables work? >> >I'm looking for low loss BNC and SMA cables - 50 Ohm. Low loss is a >> >requirement, and as long as the price is not $1/ft for 500ft, any >> >reasonable price is ok. Most of my applications are <200MHz. >> >> How much loss can you tolerate? What are the frequencies your application >> will be using? What is your RF budget? What distances will you be >> transmitting >> your signal(s)? What will you be transmitting, RF or data? Do you need to >> run >> the coax around tight corners? Do you need coax that is low smoking and >> free >> of halides? > Right now we are using RG58, so it's about 16dB for 100m, slashing that > by 8 dB would be good. > The frequencies are anywhere between 5MHz and 500MHz. > I'm looking at somewhere ~$400 for 500ft. Distances - 1 to 3 meters > (maybe 1 or 2 10m ones). > I will be transmitting data and RF. > I don't see the need for tight corners at this point, but it would be > "nice to have" option. > No requirement for low smoking/free of halides, but would be > "nice-to-have". > >> All coaxial cables (and connectors) exhibit attenuation (loss) over >> distance. >> Do you consider $1/ft too expensive or too cheap? >> >> >I see here http://www.gme.net.au/land/antennas/coax_cables.php >> >that RG58AU is a low loss BNC >> >> RG58AU is a type of coaxial cable. BNC is a type of connector. >> Distributors >> that describe a BNC coax cable are talking about a cable that is >> terminated >> with one or more BNC connectors. >> >> Many BNC connector manufacturers have versions of their connectors >> for crimping, soldering, or just screwing them onto the prepared RG58 >> cable. >> > Therefore, if, for example, I buy Belden cable, I can just buy BNC, SMB > or SMA connectors for that particular cable? > >> >from the data here http://www.ssbusa.com/comaircom.html >> >RG 213 seems to have even lower loss value >> >> Yes, but it has a larger diameter than RG58 and is more rigid. I >> recommend >> using crimp connectors to terminate RG213 coax because soldering the >> terminal >> pin is a bugger without melting the dielectric slightly. And it takes >> practice. >> > I was also thinking about buying crimp connectors, smothing like this > http://www.integratednetworkcable.com/productDetailsPopUp.asp?idproduct=1071 > or from here > http://www.danimex.com/Default.aspx?ID=1363 > >> >Now, on that last website ECOFLEX has even lower db loss. Ecoflex 10 >> >can work with BNC, does it mean I can use it as conventional BNC cable, >> >just with low loss? >> >> Yes if connectors are available, and its probably a good deal more >> expensive too. >> And 10mm diameter as opposed to about 6.5mm to 7mm for RG58 (I think) >> But with the extra copper shield the ECOFLEX 10 will be somewhat more >> rigid >> than the RG58. > >> >I read the BNC connectors are for average speed and SMA connectors are >> >for high-speed. Is it true? And can I place BNC, SMA and SMB connectors >> >on the cable from the same spool? >> >> What is "average speed" and "high speed"? The simple answer is to ask the >> cable manufacturer/distributor which connector is suitable for the cable >> for >> your application. They should have a list of preferred connector >> manufacturers >> and any suitable connectors. >> >> >Thanks, >> >Vitaliy >
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