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Article #2389Re: LED temperature dependence
From: Adam Seychell
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:37
Date: Fri, 26 Apr 2002 00:37
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Tony Williams <tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<4b2cc6c7e6tonyw@ledelec.demon.co.uk>... > In article <21a524b0.0204250322.19119138@posting.google.com>, > Adam Seychell <aseychell@vet.com.au> wrote: > > > The problem lies in a mismatch in temperature sensitivities between > > the two optical paths. When I touch one leg of the LED with a > > soldering iron tip (1 second) the effect is easily produced. I can > > also see the output takes several seconds to settle after power > > is applied, as if the LED is heating up and stabilizing. I > > suspect the LED is changing its radiation pattern with temperature, > > thus altering relative amounts of light to the feedback and > > measuring photodiode. > > I've been here Adam.... Six weeks of piddling about, > trying to get an absorption meter stabilised. > > I ended up with the LED, stabilising photodiode, > and measuring photodiode mounted in an aluminium > block, stabilised at 35C (+/- a fraction). The > output/input light was via 5mm fibre-optics. > I even had a special bundle made, where the servo > takeoff was a 1% Y-piece off the main transmitting > fibre-optic bundle. > > And still the bleeding thing was not stable enough. > > What caught me out was that the transmission through > the measured medium was itself not stable, being > sensitive to temperature and *tiny* shifts in the > wavelength of the generated light. > > The real answer to the problem is to have two > identical light channels, one as a reference (with a > known absorption), and the other being the measuring > channel. The output is the ratio of the two channels. I'm glad you mentioned this Tony. I thought I was doing something horrible wrong, but I have now learned that stabilizing absorption photometers is not a trivial task. Well you seemed to eliminate your optics problem with a temperature stabilized housing, but there still remains the stability of the medium you are trying to measure. I'm not yet sure if this will be a problem in my case. I like your idea of a two channel device. I'd rather build two simple devices than a single complicated one. Was there a need for a stabilizing photodiode even though temperature remained at a constant 35�C ?
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