🚀 go-pugleaf

On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 09:34:43 -0800 (PST), Bill Sloman
<bill.sloman@ieee.org> wrote:

>On Nov 6, 4:13�pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 14:35:10 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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>> <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >On Nov 5, 3:58�pm, John Fields <jfie...@austininstruments.com> wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2009 04:56:33 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
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>> >> <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
>> >> >On Nov 5, 5:15�am, "Michael A. Terrell" <mike.terr...@earthlink.net>
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >> John Fields wrote:
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>> >> >> > On Wed, 4 Nov 2009 15:59:20 -0800 (PST),Bill Sloman
>> >> >> > <bill.slo...@ieee.org> wrote:
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>> >> >> > >My "unique" talents were recognised for what they were worth. I'd
>> >> >> > >prefer to be working at the moment, but there are enough good
>> >> >> > >electronic engineers around that society isn't going to founder for
>> >> >> > >want of my contribution.
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>> >> >> > ---
>> >> >> > Actually, I think society is probably less likely to founder because of
>> >> >> > the lack of your "contribution". ;)
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>> >> >> � �So much for Bill's lame claims on aus.electronics that he's educating
>> >> >> people on the sci.electronics groups.
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>> >> >Some people aren't easy to educate, and both you and John Fields would
>> >> >seem to fall into that catagory.
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>> >> ---
>> >> If, by "education", you mean hitching my wagon to your star, then I'd
>> >> much prefer something other than a white dwarf.
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>> >Education is getting people to think for themselves in a useful way.
>> >It isn't about hitching anybody's wagon to someone else's wagon train.
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>> Only trouble with that definition is that for people to be able to think
>> in a useful way requires them to follow your lead and believe the way
>> you do.
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>Not necessarily. There are a variety of ways�of thinking for yourself
>in a useful way. You don't seem to have mastered any of them.

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Perhaps, from your point of view, but then you can't even decipher a
simple metaphor so I'd say you were pretty myopic.
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>>In other words, by hitching their wagon to your wagon train and
>> heading for the same destination; one example of which would be to never
>> use a 555.
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>I've never said that one should never use a 555 - I've merely pointed
>out that in almost all situations there are now better alternatives.

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Oh, please...

You stated, once, that you'd tried to use one, that it was a crappy part
which didn't meet your expectations and, because of that, you'd never
use one.
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>> That, of course, presumes you do have a wagon train, and I seriously
>> doubt whether you do.
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>You were claiming that my view of "education" would involve your
>hitching your wagon (which I seriously doubt you have) to my "star"
>whatever that might be. 

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You're not very good at this, are you?

It's a simple metaphor, Bill.

The star is your dream, what drives you, what you follow, and the wagon
is what I use to carry me through my life.

So hitching _my_ wagon to _your_ star would be tantamount to my
unhitching it from mine and living my life as you saw fit for me to live
it.

Certainly nothing I'd even consider.
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>I adjusted the analogy by substituting an
>equally figurative wagon train for your "star", 

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Because you didn't understand the analogy?
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>but since I was
>engaged in rejecting the idea that education involves leaders and
>followers, I wouldn't be offering to let you hook your wagon to my
>wagon train even in the remote event that I came to possess a wagon
>train in Texas.

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If it's _your_ wagon train and you get to determine who "gets" to hook
up to it or not, then your statement carries the implicit meaning that
you're the boss; i.e., the leader, and those who are allowed to hook up
are the followers.

JF