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Article #837Re: Why don't they mark SMD caps?
From: Shaun
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:24
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:24
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"Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message news:ttqdnac-5O96jPXXnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@posted.localnet... > David L. Jones wrote: >> An interesting question was posted on another forum: >> "can you get (ceramic) SMD caps (1206,0805 etc) with the values printed >> on them?". >> >> My first response was that I've very rarely seen this (like maybe once), >> and while it is possible (see >> http://www.synrad.com/search_apps/application_briefs/117-2.htm), you >> basically can't get labeled ones, they are almost always without >> markings. >> >> It got me to thinking, why is it so? >> My guess would be that it's due to the surface finish (or lack thereof) >> on ceramic capacitors, and/or the delicate nature of their multi-layer >> construction means they could be more easily damaged or properties >> altered by the process. >> As opposed to most SMD resistors that have a coating on them which would >> allow for easy and accurate printing using various technologies. >> >> Any know the real reason(s) why ceramic SMD caps don't have markings? >> >> Dave. > Ahh..the caps could likewise be coated (and AFAIK they .are. coated > prior to potting for leaded versions). > Then, given that coating, they could be marked like the resistors you > mentioned. > BUT..that was "never" done so it will not be done (gotta stay in that > rut...). I doult very much any manufacter would coat SMD caps as it would increase the height to capacitor sits above the board, increasing the mounted inductance, a crital factor when designing high frequecny boards. Manufactuers spend a lot of money trying to reduce this unwanted property. see http://www.avx.co.il/docs/techinfo/licadesign.pdf or http://www.kemet.com/kemet/web/homepage/kfbk3.nsf/vaFeedbackFAQ/D1A54E16FEC61B058525721E006EF53C/$file/Sun%20Paper%20on%20ESL%20&%20ESR.pdf although these articles deal with via placement they discuss the need to reduce the size of the loop that current flows in, a loop that would be increased if a capacitor had an extra coating on it.
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