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Article #838Re: Why don't they mark SMD caps?
From: Dennis
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:42
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 10:42
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"Shaun" <not.today@go.away.au> wrote in message news:4a68395a$0$3253$afc38c87@news.optusnet.com.au... > > "Robert Baer" <robertbaer@localnet.com> wrote in message > news:ttqdnac-5O96jPXXnZ2dnUVZ_sidnZ2d@posted.localnet... >> David L. Jones wrote: >>> An interesting question was posted on another forum: >>> "can you get (ceramic) SMD caps (1206,0805 etc) with the values printed >>> on them?". >>> >>> My first response was that I've very rarely seen this (like maybe once), >>> and while it is possible (see >>> http://www.synrad.com/search_apps/application_briefs/117-2.htm), you >>> basically can't get labeled ones, they are almost always without >>> markings. >>> >>> It got me to thinking, why is it so? >>> My guess would be that it's due to the surface finish (or lack thereof) >>> on ceramic capacitors, and/or the delicate nature of their multi-layer >>> construction means they could be more easily damaged or properties >>> altered by the process. >>> As opposed to most SMD resistors that have a coating on them which would >>> allow for easy and accurate printing using various technologies. >>> >>> Any know the real reason(s) why ceramic SMD caps don't have markings? >>> >>> Dave. >> Ahh..the caps could likewise be coated (and AFAIK they .are. coated >> prior to potting for leaded versions). >> Then, given that coating, they could be marked like the resistors you >> mentioned. >> BUT..that was "never" done so it will not be done (gotta stay in that >> rut...). > > I doult very much any manufacter would coat SMD caps as it would increase > the height to capacitor sits above the board, increasing the mounted > inductance, a crital factor when designing high frequecny boards. > Manufactuers spend a lot of money trying to reduce this unwanted property. > > see http://www.avx.co.il/docs/techinfo/licadesign.pdf > or > http://www.kemet.com/kemet/web/homepage/kfbk3.nsf/vaFeedbackFAQ/D1A54E16FEC61B058525721E006EF53C/$file/Sun%20Paper%20on%20ESL%20&%20ESR.pdf > although these articles deal with via placement they discuss the need to > reduce the size of the loop that current flows in, a loop that would be > increased if a capacitor had an extra coating on it. > > Coating or encapsulation? Coating could be insignificantly thin.
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