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Article #1117Re: How to build obsolescence into an appliance.
From: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:34
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:34
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D�ve qgo100@ubgznvy.pbz> <ROT13 for Email --> wrote in message news:k%kb8.146649$Gb1.19590751@typhoon.tampabay.rr.com... > Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote >> D�ve qgo100@ubgznvy.pbz> <ROT13 for Email --> wrote >>> I called RCA for a schematic for a $200 TVCR, >>> they wanted $85 + shipping for it!!! >> Not very surprising given the low volume print runs etc I spose. >> The dinosaurs should have free pdfs on their web sites by now. >>> I guess they are selling a limited-edition, leather wrapped hardback >>> version. I told them, for THAT price, it better come with a technician. >> Soorree, slavery is illegal now. > They can have the tech back, when he's done repairing the set :) Soorree, trading in monkeys is illegal too. >>> Over the past couple of years, it seems ALL the companies >>> are hi-jacking their prices. JVC is now selling some 20" TV >>> syscon micro's for $87.00. That's more than a 1GHz Athlon. >>> I don't recall seeing a big fan on the top of that JVC micro... >> You aint paying for the heat it generates, silly. > The point was, that a 4 or maybe 8 bit micro from a 20" JVC TV > cost more than a 1GHZ 32-bit CPU with 22 million transistors. They've never been priced per transistor, stupid. > There should be a "reasonable" profit margin. You one of those commos or sumfin ? > Most other manufacturers sold micro's for about $20. You one of those commos or sumfin ? > The $87.00 is far too much for what it is. You one of those commos or sumfin ? > These things are priced like they were hand-etched by japanese virgins, No such animal. > or something... > > > "Franc Zabkar" <franczabkar@dinggoblue.net.au> wrote in message > > > news:3c6cc21a.9302851@news.dingoblue.net.au... > > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:18:42 +1300, Alan Liefting > > > > <aliefting@ihug.co.nz> put finger to keyboard and composed: > > > > > > > > Don't make service manuals or circuit diagrams available. If you do, > > > > ensure that only your service agents get one, or price them so highly > > > > that the job becomes uneconomical. > > > > > > > > Don't identify yourself as the manufacturer. Hide behind your OEM > > > > resellers who of course will have no facilities to repair anything > > > > except by total replacement. > > > > > > > > Scrape the numbers off your IC's, or have them stamped with obscure > > > > in-house part numbers. You don't want to make repairs too easy for the > > > > end user or for a third party repairer who would otherwise be able to > > > > source these $1 garden variety parts from any electronics store. > > > > > > > > Don't stock parts that could reasonably be expected to fail or wear > > > > out, eg battery contacts, flex PCBs, remote control keypads, curly > > > > cords. If you must supply them, then do so as part of a complete, > > > > uneconomically priced assembly. > > > > > > > > Use flimsy non-standard (and hence unavailable) connectors for > > > > attaching expensive proprietary AC adaptors, chargers, and > > > > accessories. > > > > > > > > Use expensive sealed units which cannot be opened for service without > > > > being damaged, and which are powered by an inexpensive internal > > > > battery. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Franc Zabkar > > > > > > > > Please remove one 'g' from my address when replying by email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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