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Re: How to build obsolescence into an appliance.

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From: Rod Speed
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 08:34
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D�ve qgo100@ubgznvy.pbz> <ROT13 for Email --> wrote in message
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> Rod Speed <rod_speed@yahoo.com> wrote
>> D�ve qgo100@ubgznvy.pbz> <ROT13 for Email --> wrote

>>> I called RCA for a schematic for a $200 TVCR,
>>> they wanted $85 + shipping for it!!!

>> Not very surprising given the low volume print runs etc I spose.

>> The dinosaurs should have free pdfs on their web sites by now.

>>> I guess they are selling a limited-edition, leather wrapped hardback
>>> version. I told them, for THAT price, it better come with a technician.

>> Soorree, slavery is illegal now.

> They can have the tech back, when he's done repairing the set   :)

Soorree, trading in monkeys is illegal too.

>>> Over the past couple of years, it seems ALL the companies
>>> are hi-jacking their prices.   JVC is now selling some 20" TV
>>> syscon micro's for $87.00. That's more than a 1GHz Athlon.
>>> I don't recall seeing a big fan on the top of that JVC micro...

>> You aint paying for the heat it generates, silly.

> The point was, that a 4 or maybe 8 bit micro from a 20" JVC TV
> cost more than a 1GHZ 32-bit CPU with 22 million transistors.

They've never been priced per transistor, stupid.

> There should be a "reasonable" profit margin.

You one of those commos or sumfin ?

> Most other manufacturers sold micro's for about $20.

You one of those commos or sumfin ?

> The $87.00 is far too much for what it is.

You one of those commos or sumfin ?

> These things are priced like they were hand-etched by japanese virgins,

No such animal.

> or something...


> > > "Franc Zabkar" <franczabkar@dinggoblue.net.au> wrote in message
> > > news:3c6cc21a.9302851@news.dingoblue.net.au...
> > > > On Fri, 15 Feb 2002 10:18:42 +1300, Alan Liefting
> > > > <aliefting@ihug.co.nz> put finger to keyboard and composed:
> > > >
> > > > Don't make service manuals or circuit diagrams available. If you do,
> > > > ensure that only your service agents get one, or price them so highly
> > > > that the job becomes uneconomical.
> > > >
> > > > Don't identify yourself as the manufacturer. Hide behind your OEM
> > > > resellers who of course will have no facilities to repair anything
> > > > except by total replacement.
> > > >
> > > > Scrape the numbers off your IC's, or have them stamped with obscure
> > > > in-house part numbers. You don't want to make repairs too easy for the
> > > > end user or for a third party repairer who would otherwise be able to
> > > > source these $1 garden variety parts from any electronics store.
> > > >
> > > > Don't stock parts that could reasonably be expected to fail or wear
> > > > out, eg battery contacts, flex PCBs, remote control keypads, curly
> > > > cords. If you must supply them, then do so as part of a complete,
> > > > uneconomically priced assembly.
> > > >
> > > > Use flimsy non-standard (and hence unavailable) connectors for
> > > > attaching expensive proprietary AC adaptors, chargers, and
> > > > accessories.
> > > >
> > > > Use expensive sealed units which cannot be opened for service without
> > > > being damaged, and which are powered by an inexpensive internal
> > > > battery.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -- Franc Zabkar
> > > >
> > > > Please remove one 'g' from my address when replying by email.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
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From: "Rod Speed" <rod_speed@yahoo.com>
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Subject: Re: How to build obsolescence into an appliance.
Date: Sat, 16 Feb 2002 19:34:41 +1100
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