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john hamilton <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:

> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they get very 'difficult to move' making the 
> screen difficult to fold up and down.

> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short time.

And is bad for the plastic.

> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic.

So does WD-40.

> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told
> us that olive oil 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.

Correct.

> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'.
> Still it's an unknown quantity to us.

Bad for the plastic too.

> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case?

Silicone oil.

> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top.

Yep, if you degrade the plastic, it will break. 

"john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message 
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>
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
> time.
>

WD-40 ain't a lubricant, it's a cleaner and a water displacer used to 
prevent
rust. 

john hamilton <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:

> 
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short
> time.

<cringe>

That could be the cause of your problems. Firstly WD40 isn't really a
lubricant and secondly it can attack some plastics which can lead to
plastic hinges gettign stiffer as the WD-40 glues the faces together.
It's a bit of a lottery depending on the plastic used in the hinges.

You would be better off using either silicon grease or a dry lubricant.
Avoid anythign containing graphite because it conducts electricity and
shouldn't be used on electrical or electronic items. Farnell sell a dry
lubricant which should be better for this application:

<http://uk.farnell.com/jsp/displayProduct.jsp?sku=298268&CMP=e-2072-0000
1000>

"Shawn Hirn" <srhi@comcast.net> wrote in message 
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> In article <g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org>,
> "john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and 
>> they
>> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and
>> down.
>>
>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very 
>> short
>> time.
>>
>> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the 
>> plastic.
>> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive 
>> oil
>> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>>
>> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
>> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still
>> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>>
>> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this 
>> case?
>> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap 
>> top.
>> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.
>
> I suggest you contact Fujitsu's tech support to discuss this problem.

Dry graphite lock lubricant, maybe ? A tint squirt of wax furniture polish ?

Arfa 

"john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message
news:g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and
they
> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and
> down.
>
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short
> time.
>
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the
plastic.
> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive
oil
> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still
> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case?
> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top.
> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.
>
>

The hinges on LTs are not plastic but have a plastic covering over the steel
hinges.
Loosening the will result in the screen lid not staying in the position
thats required of the user.

If you must loosen them then do it the proper way,get it serviced.
If its out of warrenty then try and find out how to remove the plastic
covering of hinges,normally this can be done without having to dismantle the
whole casing?

Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

> Dry graphite lock lubricant

Are you sure you want to be spraying graphite around near a laptop?

"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Dry graphite lock lubricant
>
> Are you sure you want to be spraying graphite around near a laptop?

Well, I take your point on its potential conductivity, but I would consider 
it highly unlikely that sufficient could actually get inside to anywhere 
'electrical' enough to cause a problem, when treating an external hinge. 
Obviously, a degree of common sense would have to be applied, but perhaps I 
am assuming too much, as WD40 has already been tried ...  :-)  I notice that 
you have carefully removed the question mark that I had after the word 
"lubricant" which changes its context rather, from the 'possibility 
suggestion' intended, to a statement, which certainly wasn't intended.

Arfa 

Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:

>  I notice that you have carefully removed the question mark that I had
> after the word "lubricant" which changes its context rather, from the
> 'possibility suggestion' intended, to a statement, which certainly wasn't
> intended.

Oh FFS are you all on the blob at the moment?

john hamilton wrote:
> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
> down.
> 
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
> time.
> 
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
> 
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
> it's an unknown quantity to us.
> 
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 
> 
> 
silicone spray.

Rod Speed wrote:
> Yep, if you degrade the plastic, it will break. 
> 

It will break anyway. If ye have the pleasure of stripping down and 
fixing Fujitsu Siemens laptops, you will be amazed how flimsy some of 
the construction is - and how the lack of support compounds the 
situation. I've never seen service manuals available.

-- 
Adrian C

Screen appear to move' makinges on our fujitsu laptop screen difficult
to move' making they get very 'difficult to move' making the hinges on
our fujitsu laptop screen appear to fold up and they get very 'difficult
to move' makinges on our fujitsu laptop screen appear to fold up and the
hinges on our fujitsu laptop.

That seems effective tried 'wd-40', but time. We have have for only a
very short that seems effective tried 'wd-40', but that seems effective
tried 'wd-40', but that seems.

Might it might it might it might effect the plastic. We we thinking of
us to use oil, but somebody has thinking olive ordinary oil as were the
plasticky, over time. We we that olive oil as that olive ordinary oil
'degrades' and goes stic. We were are thinking olive oil as told us
thought it might effect that olive oil as thinking of us thinking of use
oil 'degrades' and goes stic. We were.

Unknown quantity to 'degrade'. Still it's made'. Still it comes from
camellia oil that was given to us, and is suppose not to us, and is
suppose not to us, and it come camellias given to 'degrade from camellia
oil that was an an and is suppose not some camellia oil that was given
to us, and it come camellias an unknown quantity to us. We have got to
'degrade'.

We dont want want in thanks. Does and safe lubricant want in the
plastions, this lap top. Grateful for and safe lubricant to case? Since
we dont in this cause a suitablems with the plastic on the plastions,
thanks. Does anyone know what would be any suitablems with this lap to
cause anyone know what want in this lap top. Grateful for anyone know
what want want in this lap to cause.

Rod Speed, ye blubbery poor fragment, I know thou art an irksome
brawling scold, ye suspired:

> how do you know when you get an orgasum?

Steve Firth, ye bug-eyed subtle whore, the wicked fires of lust have
melted thou in thine own grease, ye gabbled:

> john hamilton <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
>>
>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very 
>> short
>> time.
>
> <cringe>
>
> That could be the cause of your problems. Firstly WD40 isn't really a
> lubricant

Yet another fucking moron.

LUBRICATES
WD-40�s lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and hold to all moving
parts. WD-40 does not contain silicone or other additives that attract dust
and dirt.

http://www.wd40.com.au/WD-40.html 

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%steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in
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>Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>>  I notice that you have carefully removed the question mark that I
>>  had 
>> after the word "lubricant" which changes its context rather, from the
>> 'possibility suggestion' intended, to a statement, which certainly
>> wasn't intended.
>
>Oh FFS are you all on the blob at the moment?
>

There is also powdered teflon...


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Arfa Daily, ye filthy malt-horse, if you spend word for word with me, I
shall make your wit bankrupt, ye issued forth:

>
> "Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
> news:1ilia4d.evnbln1doym12N%%steve%@malloc.co.uk...
>> Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dry graphite lock lubricant
>>
>> Are you sure you want to be spraying graphite around near a laptop?
>
> Well, I take your point on its potential conductivity, but I would 
> consider it highly unlikely that sufficient could actually get inside to 
> anywhere 'electrical' enough to cause a problem

Real meaning: "I have never seen graphite, let alone used it." 

-- 
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Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
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"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message > Yet 
another fucking moron.
>
> LUBRICATES
> WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and hold to all 
> moving
> parts. WD-40 does not contain silicone or other additives that attract 
> dust
> and dirt.

You've already cut-n-pasted that, are your multiple personalities 
communicating properly?

d, ye toilet-scrubbing doghearted daughter, o you beast, o faithless
coward, o dishonest wretch. Wilt thou be made a man out of my vice, ye
released:

>
> "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message > Yet 
> another fucking moron.
>>
>> LUBRICATES
>> WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and hold to all 
>> moving
>> parts. WD-40 does not contain silicone or other additives that attract 
>> dust
>> and dirt.
>
> You've already cut-n-pasted tha<BITCHSLAP>

You snipped the bit where it said "Yet another fucking moron." Perhaps 
because you knew, or at least suspected, that it applied to you too.

-- 
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Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk

"Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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> d, ye toilet-scrubbing doghearted daughter, o you beast, o faithless
> coward, o dishonest wretch. Wilt thou be made a man out of my vice, ye
> released:
>
>>
>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message > Yet
>> another fucking moron.
>>>
>>> LUBRICATES
>>> WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and hold to all
>>> moving
>>> parts. WD-40 does not contain silicone or other additives that attract
>>> dust
>>> and dirt.
>>
>> You've already cut-n-pasted tha<BITCHSLAP>
>
> You snipped the bit where it said "Yet another fucking moron." Perhaps
> because you knew, or at least suspected, that it applied to you too.
>

Look again, typical of you.

You have no idea what your ranting about

hth

Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> Yet another fucking moron.

Good of you to introduce yourself.

The War Department specified WD-40 as a water dispersant. Not as a
lubricant.

d, ye callow minion of the moon, a knot you are of damned blood suckers,
ye winced:

>
> "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message 
> news:q3f40y$unq$n@alt.books.nylons.net.brunei...
>> d, ye toilet-scrubbing doghearted daughter, o you beast, o faithless
>> coward, o dishonest wretch. Wilt thou be made a man out of my vice, ye
>> released:
>>
>>>
>>> "Kadaitcha Man" <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote in message > Yet
>>> another fucking moron.
>>>>
>>>> LUBRICATES
>>>> WD-40's lubricating ingredients are widely dispersed and hold to all
>>>> moving
>>>> parts. WD-40 does not contain silicone or other additives that attract
>>>> dust
>>>> and dirt.
>>>
>>> You've already cut-n-pasted tha<BITCHSLAP>
>>
>> You snipped the bit where it said "Yet another fucking moron." Perhaps
>> because you knew, or at least suspected, that it applied to you too.
>>
>
> Look aga<BITCHSLAP>

You do it. 

-- 
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Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
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"Steve Firth" <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote in message 
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> Arfa Daily <arfa.daily@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>> Dry graphite lock lubricant
>
> Are you sure you want to be spraying graphite around near a laptop?

Many such things are 'lubricated' on assembly with a damping fluid - a bit 
like the spindles on controls - to give that "stirring treacle" feel (a 
wonderful expression - found on this group)

A typical long chain molecule compound is this one:

http://www.rocol.com/lubricants/english/maintenance/damping/

Kilopoise.

Removing this can make the assembly feel very sloppy. Alternatively it may 
have some sort of spring loaded expanding spindle to give some braking 
effect. 

john hamilton wrote:

> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
> down.
> 
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
> time.
> 
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
> 
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
> it's an unknown quantity to us.
> 
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.

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  misc.consumers.frugal-living
  uk.d-i-y


WD-40
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40

FAQ page
http://www.wd40.com/faqs/#q8

I sincerely doubt that your laptop's plastic casing has been damaged as
others have insinuated.  Because of low viscosity, WD-40 will drip away
and also evaporate away (due to the aromatic compounds) leaving behind
something akin to a shellac coating hence its claimed rust protection
due to the residue.  As a lubricant, WD-40 works at first but then its
lubing effect wanes.  While WD-40 is good at penetration and
displacement, it is only useful for temporary lubrication.  The residue
left behind for rust prevention is not useful for friction reduction.
It is a "light" lubricant that also will remove existing lubricants.
For example, don't use it on your bicycle chain as the result will be
washing away the existing oil, it doesn't have enough viscosity to stay
in place, and you get metal-to-metal erosion.  

Instead of WD-40, use a squeeze-tube applicator with needle (aka, a
"pen") for 3-In-One oil (also made by WD-40 company; see
http://www.3inone.com/faqs/), the multi-purpose blend.  It won't wash
away existing lubricant and doesn't evaporate away over time to leave
behind a higher friction residue as does WD-40.  See
http://www.wd40company.com/partners/msds/usa/ for the MSDS sheets.
Notice 3-in-one has nil volatiles while WD-40 has 74%.  What you spray
on for immediate effect with WD-40 then evaporates away.  The residue
left behind by WD-40 for rust protection is not what you want for lower
friction.

You could use silicone lube (but not now after you've already used
WD-40).  While silicone grease is great (but requires applying to the
mating surfaces which means dismantling the hinges in your laptops),
silicone spray lube will have less than spectacular results.  Works
great when applied but the hinge starts squeaking a week later (and
which wasn't squeaking before).  If it has hexane, that damages some
plastics, like polypropylene.  Check the ingredients as it is the other
"stuff" that might determine if you use that silicone lube product or
not.  If you have to use a spray, put a paper towel behind to catch the
overspray, or oversoak an ear swab with the spray and use the swab on
the hinge.  Silicone polymers will swell if exposed to hydrophobic
solvents (e.g., WD-40).  Don't mix them.  Unless you are going to
dismantle the laptop AND the hinge to thoroughly clean inside the hinge,
and since you already used WD-40, don't use a silicon spray.  The
wetting agents in the silicon spray won't be sufficient to penetrate
into a constructed hinge to clean out the WD-40 still left inside.  

"john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and 
> they get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up 
> and down.
>
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
> time.
>
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the 
> plastic. We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us 
> that olive oil 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.

If you can get the hinge covers of, you may find a few screws holding the 
hinge-proper in place.

You could try loosening these, or even dismantling the hinge and cleaning 
it. They will be metal parts,

You may find a manual for the laptop on the Fujitsu website.

THIS IS A PUBLIC SUGGESTION ANNOUNCEMENT !

In article <g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org>, "john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
>The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
>get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
>down.
>
>We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
>time.
>
>We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
>We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
>'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>
>We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
>Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
>it's an unknown quantity to us.
>
>Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
>Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
>Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 


CRC 2-26
CRC 2-26
CRC 2-26
CRC 2-26
CRC 2-26

CRC 2-26

TRY getting it at The Home Depot.

http://www.crcindustries.com/faxdocs/TCHDTA/101.pdf

"john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:

>The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
>get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
>down.

I use this Teflon based dry lube around the house.
maybe try it?

http://www.amazon.com/DuPont-Multi-Use-Lubricant-Fluoropolymer-squeeze/dp/B00030BFEM

"d" <meh@hg.con> wrote in message 
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>
> "john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message 
> news:g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
>> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and 
>> they get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up 
>> and down.
>>
>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very 
>> short time.
>>
>> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the 
>> plastic. We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us 
>> that olive oil 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>>
>> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
>> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
>> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>>
>> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this 
>> case? Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this 
>> lap top. Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.
>
> If you can get the hinge covers of, you may find a few screws holding the 
> hinge-proper in place.
>
> You could try loosening these, or even dismantling the hinge and cleaning 
> it. They will be metal parts,
>
> You may find a manual for the laptop on the Fujitsu website.

p.s.

if u look at this ebay auction of a laptop hinge

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ADVENT-3087-LEFT-RIGHT-HINGES-MB127_W0QQitemZ220264193650QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item220264193650&_trkparms=72%3A12%7C39%3A1%7C66%3A2%7C65%3A12&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14.l1318

the actual hinge is a pole underneath the black part in the middle.

Grease is used on it.

the WD40 may have degraded the grease.

I seem to semember that trying to loosen the screws was difficult.

It does need fixing though, because it puts pressure on the frame, screen 
and surrounding plastics, causing cracks and eventually .....


THIS IS A PUBLIC SUGGESTION ANNOUNCEMENT ! 

john hamilton wrote:

> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.

http://cpc.farnell.com/SASILGRSETUBE/electrochemicals-adhesives-service-aids/product.us0?sku=servisol-200002000-50gm



-- 
Cheers,

John.

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Silicone, as used for plumbing fittings 

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:32:50 +0100, "john hamilton"
<bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:

>The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
>get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
>down.
>
>We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
>time.
>
>We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
>We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
>'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>
>We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
>Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
>it's an unknown quantity to us.
>
>Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
>Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
>Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 
>

I'm surprised no-one has been along to tell you to stop doing
unmentionable things over your laptop.!!!!!!!!! :-)

On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:32:50 +0100, "john hamilton"
<bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:

>The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
>get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
>down.

Any particular model Fujitsu?  All the one's that I've seen have metal
hinges buried under the plastic hinge cover.

>We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
>time.

Big mess, doesn't stay put, drips, and doesn't last.  Also eats some
plastics. 

>We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
>We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
>'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.

True.  Same with most vegetable oils.

>We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
>Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
>it's an unknown quantity to us.

Dunno.

>Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
>Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
>Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 

Silicon lube should work.  However, I would use soap.  That's common
ordinary soap flakes or shredded Ivory brand soap bars.  That's what I
use for doors, hinges, screws, cd trays, and any place where I need a
no-mess lube job.

Also, I would look a bit more carefully at the hinge you're attempting
to lube, and see if you're not shaving plastic as it moves.  The
plastic chips will imbed themselves into the pivot area and eventually
jam the hinge.  Just cleaning out the crud might be sufficient to make
the hinge work normally.

-- 
Jeff Liebermann     jeffl@cruzio.com
150 Felker St #D    http://www.LearnByDestroying.com
Santa Cruz CA 95060 http://802.11junk.com
Skype: JeffLiebermann     AE6KS    831-336-2558

On Aug 11, 2:32 am, "john hamilton" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they
> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and
> down.
>
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short
> time.
>
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic.
> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil
> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still
> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case?
> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top.
> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.

Haven't read the rest of these so there could be duplicates.  I'd try
some of that locksmith powdered slate; for the life of me I can't
think of the "name".

On Aug 11, 3:08 am, "Arfa Daily" <arfa.da...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> "Shawn Hirn" <s...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:srhi-F33D9F.05530611082008@newsgroups.comcast.net...
>
>
>
>
>
> > In article <g7p10c$9h...@registered.motzarella.org>,
> > "john hamilton" <blues...@mail.invalid> wrote:
>
> >> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and
> >> they
> >> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and
> >> down.
>
> >> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very
> >> short
> >> time.
>
> >> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the
> >> plastic.
> >> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive
> >> oil
> >> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>
> >> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
> >> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still
> >> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>
> >> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this
> >> case?
> >> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap
> >> top.
> >> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.
>
> > I suggest you contact Fujitsu's tech support to discuss this problem.
>
> Dry graphite lock lubricant, maybe ? A tint squirt of wax furniture polish ?
>
> Arfa- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Graphite...that's the stuff I was thinking of :)  Worked great on my
vinyl window track :)

Jeff Liebermann wrote:

> "john hamilton" wrote:
>

>> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this
>> case? Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on
>> this lap top. Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.
> 
> Silicon lube should work.  However, I would use soap.  That's common
> ordinary soap flakes or shredded Ivory brand soap bars.  That's what
> I use for doors, hinges, screws, cd trays, and any place where I need
> a no-mess lube job.

NOTE: The following unrelated newsgroups were removed from my reply to
the cross-posted message:
  misc.consumers.frugal-living
  uk.d-i-y

You said not to use vegetable oils.  Yet then you suggest by way of
Ivory soap to use animal fat (sodium tallowate = sodium hydroxide, or
caustic lye, and tallow).  Because Ivory is more caustic is why it has
better antimicrobial qualities.  Yeah, like animal fat doesn't break
down.  Ivory is more caustic than, say, Dove which is more mild and is a
synthethic detergent bar (synthetic surfecants and vegetable oil).  

I always snickered about the "99.44% pure" slogan since they never did
mention from WHAT it was pure.  It was a measure against the castile
soap (made from vegetable oil and less lye) against which it competed
back in the 1890's regarding proclaimed impurities (maybe the fine ash
used in soap-making to provide the salts) that were in the castile soap
but not in Ivory.

The hard lube sticks you buy (to rub on the lube which would do nothing
in the case of hinges or anywhere the lubricate needs to penetrate to
interface between the working surfaces) are made from some combination
of grease, wax, hardened fats (which would be more like the Ivory soap
bar), glyceride, graphite or PTFE (aka Teflon), molybdenum disulfide,
and a petroleum derived hydrocarbon.  Obviously a soap bar or lube stick
won't last long where there is any humidity.  That's why using a soap
bar on a kitchen drawer works well but not on drawers in the bathroom
vanity.  A silicone-based lube won't be permanent but it lasts longer
than soap and won't build up like soap.  Molybdenum disulfide (aka Moly)
is a dry lubricant and would probably work better on the drawers and
definitely on the hinges.  Moly has an extraordinary affinity to stick
to metal so it's good for hinges once you get a wetting carrier to
penetrate and deposit the Moly on the mating surfaces or use a grease
formula to keep it sticking in place when you re-assemble the pieces.

While I'll use a soap bar to help screw in that superlong wood screw,
I'm not thereafter concerned about the lubrication qualities of the
soap.  It doesn't have to provide long-lasting lubrication.  Just once
is enough.  Lasting lubrication is not what soap does.  I snicker when
thinking about using it on hinges, as mentioned, and then wonder why the
hinge is squeaking again after a rainstorm or why the steamy bathroom
vanity drawers are sticking again.  Might be a no-mess lube job but it's
not a good lube job.

"VanguardLH" <V@nguard.LH> wrote in message 
news:g7ednb_5poMYHz3VnZ2dnUVZ_gudnZ2d@comcast.com...
> Jeff Liebermann wrote:
>
>> "john hamilton" wrote:
>>
>
>>> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this
>>> case? Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on
>>> this lap top. Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.
>>
>> Silicon lube should work.  However, I would use soap.  That's common
>> ordinary soap flakes or shredded Ivory brand soap bars.  That's what
>> I use for doors, hinges, screws, cd trays, and any place where I need
>> a no-mess lube job.
>
> NOTE: The following unrelated newsgroups were removed from my reply to
> the cross-posted message:
>  misc.consumers.frugal-living
>  uk.d-i-y
>
> You said not to use vegetable oils.  Yet then you suggest by way of
> Ivory soap to use animal fat (sodium tallowate = sodium hydroxide, or
> caustic lye, and tallow).  Because Ivory is more caustic is why it has
> better antimicrobial qualities.  Yeah, like animal fat doesn't break
> down.  Ivory is more caustic than, say, Dove which is more mild and is a
> synthethic detergent bar (synthetic surfecants and vegetable oil).
>
> I always snickered about the "99.44% pure" slogan since they never did
> mention from WHAT it was pure.  It was a measure against the castile
> soap (made from vegetable oil and less lye) against which it competed
> back in the 1890's regarding proclaimed impurities (maybe the fine ash
> used in soap-making to provide the salts) that were in the castile soap
> but not in Ivory.
>
> The hard lube sticks you buy (to rub on the lube which would do nothing
> in the case of hinges or anywhere the lubricate needs to penetrate to
> interface between the working surfaces) are made from some combination
> of grease, wax, hardened fats (which would be more like the Ivory soap
> bar), glyceride, graphite or PTFE (aka Teflon), molybdenum disulfide,
> and a petroleum derived hydrocarbon.  Obviously a soap bar or lube stick
> won't last long where there is any humidity.  That's why using a soap
> bar on a kitchen drawer works well but not on drawers in the bathroom
> vanity.  A silicone-based lube won't be permanent but it lasts longer
> than soap and won't build up like soap.  Molybdenum disulfide (aka Moly)
> is a dry lubricant and would probably work better on the drawers and
> definitely on the hinges.  Moly has an extraordinary affinity to stick
> to metal so it's good for hinges once you get a wetting carrier to
> penetrate and deposit the Moly on the mating surfaces or use a grease
> formula to keep it sticking in place when you re-assemble the pieces.
>
> While I'll use a soap bar to help screw in that superlong wood screw,
> I'm not thereafter concerned about the lubrication qualities of the
> soap.  It doesn't have to provide long-lasting lubrication.  Just once
> is enough.  Lasting lubrication is not what soap does.  I snicker when
> thinking about using it on hinges, as mentioned, and then wonder why the
> hinge is squeaking again after a rainstorm or why the steamy bathroom
> vanity drawers are sticking again.  Might be a no-mess lube job but it's
> not a good lube job.

i totally agree

washingup liquid is good on sqeaky hinges for a while, till it rusts them

hth

NOSPAMnet@gmail.com wrote:
> On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 10:32:50 +0100, "john hamilton"
> <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
>> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
>> down.
>>
>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
>> time.
>>
>> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
>> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
>> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
>>
>> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
>> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
>> it's an unknown quantity to us.
>>
>> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
>> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
>> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 
>>
> 
> I'm surprised no-one has been along to tell you to stop doing
> unmentionable things over your laptop.!!!!!!!!! :-)

Nobody wanted to mention it....

jak

"john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in
news:g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org: 

> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and
> they get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold
> up and down.
> 
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very
> short time.
> 
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the
> plastic. We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us
> that olive oil 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
> 
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'.
> Still it's an unknown quantity to us.
> 
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this
> case? Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on
> this lap top. Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 
> 
> 

Do you have a hobby shop in your area?
Esp. one that caters to Model railroaders?
You can buy a Plastics Compatible Lube there.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Kadaitcha Man"
<nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> saying something like:

>Yet another fucking moron.
>
>LUBRICATES
>WD-40?s lubricating ingredients

are utter shite. 
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

Steve Firth, ye reeky cur, a bankrupt, a prodigal, who dare scarce show
thy head on Usenet, ye chortled:

> Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Yet another fucking moron.
>
> Good of you to introduce yourself.
>
> The War Department specified WD-40 as a water dispersant. Not as a
> lubricant.


LMAO "The War Department specified WD-40 as a water dispersant. Not as a 
lubricant"..."therefore it is not a lubricant."

You fucking stupid cunt. 

-- 
Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk

Grimly Curmudgeon, ye rude-growing gudgeon, thou art opposite to
humanity, ye proclaimed:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Kadaitcha Man"
> <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> saying something like:
>
>>Yet another fucking moron.
>>
>>LUBRICATES
>>WD-40?s lubricating ingredients
>
> are utter shite.


So fucking what? Take it up with the manufacturer, you fucking gormless tit. 

-- 
Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
Official Member: Cabal Obsidian Order COOSN-124-07-06660
Official Overseer of Kooks & Trolls in 24hoursupport.helpdesk

john hamilton wrote:

> Screen appear to move' makinges on our fujitsu laptop screen difficult
> to move' making they get very 'difficult to move' making the hinges on
> our fujitsu laptop screen appear to fold up and they get very 'difficult
> to move' makinges on our fujitsu laptop screen appear to fold up and the
> hinges on our fujitsu laptop.
> 
> That seems effective tried 'wd-40', but time. We have have for only a
> very short that seems effective tried 'wd-40', but that seems effective
> tried 'wd-40', but that seems.
> 
> Might it might it might it might effect the plastic. We we thinking of
> us to use oil, but somebody has thinking olive ordinary oil as were the
> plasticky, over time. We we that olive oil as that olive ordinary oil
> 'degrades' and goes stic. We were are thinking olive oil as told us
> thought it might effect that olive oil as thinking of us thinking of use
> oil 'degrades' and goes stic. We were.
> 
> Unknown quantity to 'degrade'. Still it's made'. Still it comes from
> camellia oil that was given to us, and is suppose not to us, and is
> suppose not to us, and it come camellias given to 'degrade from camellia
> oil that was an an and is suppose not some camellia oil that was given
> to us, and it come camellias an unknown quantity to us. We have got to
> 'degrade'.
> 
> We dont want want in thanks. Does and safe lubricant want in the
> plastions, this lap top. Grateful for and safe lubricant to case? Since
> we dont in this cause a suitablems with the plastic on the plastions,
> thanks. Does anyone know what would be any suitablems with this lap to
> cause anyone know what want in this lap top. Grateful for anyone know
> what want want in this lap to cause.
> 
Powdered Graphite..

http://webpages.charter.net/jamie_5"

Kadaitcha Man <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> wrote:

> You fucking stupid cunt. 

Look at all the time you have posted to Usenet and you remain
clue-resistant.

Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:

> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> drugs began to take hold. I remember "Kadaitcha Man"
> <nospam.nospam.nospam@gmail.com> saying something like:
> 
> 
>>Yet another fucking moron.
>>
>>LUBRICATES
>>WD-40?s lubricating ingredients
> 
> 
> are utter shite. 

That's because the letters WD mean that it is a water dispersing fluid, 
as a lubricant, it is utter shite that evaporates quite quickly.

Dave

john hamilton posted for all of us...

> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they 
> get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and 
> down.
> 
> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short 
> time.
> 
> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic. 
> We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil 
> 'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.
> 
> We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from 
> Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still 
> it's an unknown quantity to us.
> 
> Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case? 
> Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top. 
> Grateful for any suggestions, thanks. 
> 
> 
> 
Tri-flow or White Lightening
-- 
Tekkie - I approve this advertisement/statement/utterance.

We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Dave <davenpat@btopenworld.com>
saying something like:

>>>WD-40?s lubricating ingredients
>> 
>> 
>> are utter shite. 
>
>That's because the letters WD mean that it is a water dispersing fluid, 
>as a lubricant, it is utter shite that evaporates quite quickly.

Which is exactly my point and one that Kai The Dysfunctional fails to
grasp.
-- 
Dave
GS850x2 XS650 SE6a

"It's a moron working with power tools.
 How much more suspenseful can you get?"
 - House

"john hamilton" <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote in message 
news:g7p10c$9hg$1@registered.motzarella.org...
The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they
get very 'difficult to move' making the screen difficult to fold up and
down.

We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short
time.

We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic.
We were thinking of using olive oil, but somebody has told us that olive oil
'degrades' and goes sticky, over time.

We have got some Camellia oil that was given to us, and it's made from
Camellias and it comes from Japan and is suppose not to 'degrade'. Still
it's an unknown quantity to us.

Does anyone know what would be a suitable and safe lubricant in this case?
Since we dont want to cause any problems with the plastic on this lap top.
Grateful for any suggestions, thanks.

***

Give the hinges a shot of Teflon spray.  Long lasting & won't hurt plastic. 
Shield the LCD screen just to be safe.
http://www.weicon.de/en/produkte/technische-sprays/schmieroele/teflon-spray.php

Larry

On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:26:11 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
<grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:

>We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>drugs began to take hold. I remember Dave <davenpat@btopenworld.com>
>saying something like:
>
>>>>WD-40?s lubricating ingredients
>>> 
>>> 
>>> are utter shite. 
>>
>>That's because the letters WD mean that it is a water dispersing fluid, 
>>as a lubricant, it is utter shite that evaporates quite quickly.
>
>Which is exactly my point and one that Kai The Dysfunctional fails to
>grasp.

*Water* is virtually as effective a lubricant as WD-40.

If you want a general lubricant, think in terms of conventional stuff
such as 3-in-1 or Vaseline.

More specialised stuff includes graphite, PTFE, K-Y (!)  and so on.

For penetrating oil, PlusGas takes a lot of beating.

Penetrol is an anti-rust stuff.


WD-40 attempts to do all these things, but long-term it fails.

-- 
Frank Erskine

Frank Erskine <frank.erskine@btinternet.com> wrote:
> On Wed, 13 Aug 2008 23:26:11 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
> <grimly4REMOVE@REMOVEgmail.com> wrote:
>
>> We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Dave <davenpat@btopenworld.com>
>> saying something like:
>>
>>>>> WD-40?s lubricating ingredients
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> are utter shite.
>>>
>>> That's because the letters WD mean that it is a water dispersing
>>> fluid, as a lubricant, it is utter shite that evaporates quite
>>> quickly.

>> Which is exactly my point and one that Kai The Dysfunctional fails to grasp.

> *Water* is virtually as effective a lubricant as WD-40.

Nope, nothing like it. Drys much more quickly for starters.

> If you want a general lubricant, think in terms of conventional stuff such as 3-in-1 or Vaseline.

> More specialised stuff includes graphite, PTFE, K-Y (!)  and so on.

> For penetrating oil, PlusGas takes a lot of beating.

> Penetrol is an anti-rust stuff.

> WD-40 attempts to do all these things, but long-term it fails.

And isnt great for plastics either. 

Rod Speed wrote:
> john hamilton <bluestar@mail.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> The hinges on our Fujitsu laptop screen appear to be 'all' plastic and they get very 'difficult to move' making the 
>> screen difficult to fold up and down.
> 
>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very short time.
> 
> And is bad for the plastic.
> 
>> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the plastic.
> 
> So does WD-40.
> 

WD40 is nasty stuff with most plastics. It seems to get inside the plastic and
it disintegrates suddenly and catastrophically at a later date.

-- JJ

get very 'difficult to move' making the
>>> screen difficult to fold up and down.
>>
>>> We have have tried 'WD-40', but that seems effective for only a very 
>>> short time.
>>
>> And is bad for the plastic.
>>
>>> We are afraid to use ordinary oil as we thought it might effect the 
>>> plastic.
>>
>> So does WD-40.
>>
>
> WD40 is nasty stuff with most plastics. It seems to get inside the plastic 
> and
> it disintegrates suddenly and catastrophically at a later date.


Radio Spares part number 175-5880 Special plastics grease

Hope that helps John.